So a bloke walks into a pub on a rare sunny day and asks for a perry and
a cider. The bar staff rummage about, looking in the cooling cabinets,
checking the cellar etc. "Sorry mate, no perry I'm afraid but, seeing as
you like cider, can we interest you in this pear cider?".
In message , Ernst S Blofeld
"Pear cider" doesn't mean perry.
A friend bought Swedish "pear cider" and after we'd all sampled it (it
tasted *pink* - a very girlie alcopop) we translated the ingredients.
Water, apple wine, pear flavour, elderflower flavour and some chemicals.
It shouldn't be legal to sell it as cider.
Thatchers are currently selling 500ml bottles of something called 'Pear
Cider' to cash in on the Magners craze. I've no idea if this is just perry
given a marketing makeover or someting different. I've never drunk any.
My daughter (18) turned up with a bottle of "pear cider". I said, "no
pear cider is called perry". She looked at me as if I had just beamed
down from another planet.
Never underestimate the ignorance of the general public.
the ukcider group discussed this phenomenon a few weeks back - after
Brothers Cider were selling a 'pear cider' - I think 'perry' as a term
amongst most drinkers has fallen out of use or understanding, so the
makers & marketers at some of the product have decided to try not to
confuse the average customer by using the term 'pear cider' instead.
I love language & using the correct word for the job, but I can
understand the motivation for this decision - alienating or confusing
your customers doesn't make for good business.
I'd go along with that. Perry isn't exactly a widely understood name. So
maybe CAMRA should instead refer to "apple cider" and "pear cider".
There is considerable logic in that if you think about it. Then we can
have "plum cider", "raspberry cider" and so on. Come to think of it, how
many of Joe Public have a clue what geuze or framboise are?
Perry is made from pears , pear cider is Cider made from apples with
some pears in it, some Cider producers make Pider when the crop of
pears is too small to make Perry, I be live the mix in Pider might be
AFAIK there are some producers (perhaps only in the last couple of
years) selling perry (largely/solely made from pears . . . & possibly
sugar, but that's a whole other fish-kettle) & calling it 'pear cider'
- someone mentioned Thatchers, I'd heard of 'Brothers' too.
Interesting aside (well I thought so) is that the cool, hip happening
'Brothers' cider co. (I think they famously have the cider concession
for Glastonbury Festival) is actually the next generation of a long-
lived cider dynasty, whose achievements (or crimes? ;~) include that
other famous perry of old - Babycham! - now slightly less hip &
In message ,
We have dozens of different perries at Reading Beerex every year, but
apart from Westons' 4% stuff I don't think any of them's made on a large
scale. They're very popular with our punters and producers say they
can't get enough pears.
Babycham was made by a firm called Showerings. None of the places I
worked took anything else from them, if they even made anything else.
ta for that - did you write it ? :~)
on the UK Cider wiki pages there's a wee bit about Brothers/Babycham
(following c&p'd from
Shepton Mallet. Website
Bottled 'pear cider' (either 4.7% or 'Festival Strength' 7.0%) and
'strawberry mixed pear cider' as well as (apple) cider. Long known for
selling cider at the Glastonbury Festival but now also offers mail
order. A growing number of off-licences and now some supermarkets also
stock them. Formed in 1992 by Matthew, Jonathan, Francis and Daniel
Showering. The original Showerings business was perhaps best known for
Babycham: it eventually became part of Taunton-Coates-Gaymer, aka
Matthew Clark Taunton and now part of the Constellation Group.