Long: Cantillon/J.P Van Roy interview from msnbc.com

Aug 25, 2003 16 Replies

Thought I'd post up a nice little piece about this trad Brussels lambic brewer, c&p'd from



it was good to reacquaint myself with some of these excellent, but challenging bers at GBBF. cheers Mike. _____________________________ Beer the old-fashioned way Time stands still at the Cantillon Brewery in Brussels By Jennifer Laidlaw BRUSSELS, Aug 25 — Time has stood still for more than a century at the Cantillon brewery in Brussels, where they still brew beer as they did in ancient Babylon. Hidden on a quiet street near the city's Gare du Midi train station where the high-speed Eurostar arrives from London and Paris, the family-owned brewery prides itself on being one of the last to make beer by spontaneous fermentation.



"We make our beer in the way they were making it in Babylon... what brewers always did until the end of the 19th century," says Jean-Pierre Van Roy, Cantillon's 61-year-old master brewer.



In a country where about 400 different kinds of beer are made, Van Roy says he is keeping a flame alive at a time when most traditional breweries have fallen by the wayside. "We are the very last to make beer like this," he said, sitting in the dimly-lit brewery surrounded by upturned barrels.



"There were more than 100 breweries at the beginning of the 20th century, but we remained a family business that is totally independent," he said.



Van Roy, who works with his wife and three children at the brewery, uses mash-tuns that date from 1900 to make the beer, the sour taste of which contrasts sharply with its deep honey color.



He uses no yeast and lets the brew ferment in open vats, exposing it to bacteria and natural yeasts; quite different from the modern method that bans any exposure to air.



"All the brewing schools in the world have said to future brewers: 'No contact with the air. Air is the worst enemy'. But we go after the air," he said. The special wheat brew, called Lambic, keeps fermenting in wooden barrels.



The Lambic forms the basis for making such renowned beers as Gueuze made from lambics of one-, two- and three-year vintages and Kriek, a cherry-flavored beer.



Each batch is unique and ensures a particularly sour taste, something which beers made by the modern method do not have, Van Roy says. "We are the defenders of a one and only taste in the world of beer: the acidic taste," he said. AGAINST THE ODDS A former teacher, Van Roy knew next to nothing about beer when he took over the brewery from his father-in-law in 1969. "I wanted to throw myself into this challenge," he said. "This old brewery was about to disappear and I said to myself: 'If only we can breathe new life into it, start it running again'."



Van Roy battled against the odds as his Belgian peers fell by the wayside during the 1970s. "I didn't just stay in my armchair. I traveled a lot in Brussels, abroad, I went to squares with my beers. It took me a lot of work, a lot of effort. My children were very young and my wife had to put up with it all," he said. He also looked at novel ways to bring in customers, such as guided tours and a museum, gradually making a name for himself among beer connoisseurs throughout the world. The number of people on the tours has risen from about 3,000 a year when they began in 1972 to 25,000. They come not only from Belgium, but Britain, France, the Netherlands and the United States. "It's not tourists that just arrive in Brussels, take a map and say: 'What are we going to do?' People come to Brussels to see us, that is very important," he said.



Van Roy has built up a network of clients in Belgium and more than other 10 countries. "For years, I knocked on doors to sell a bottle, and now people knock on my door to buy one," he said.



Although people have become more interested in micro-breweries and home-made beers, Van Roy says he does not expect to see an explosion in specialty breweries like his. "The kind of people who drink this beer will remain a very targeted group," he said. "If I had 20 people here and they all said they liked the beer, I would be very surprised."



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Surely a decent beer from any country is not meant to taste 'off'? How would you know if it has been kept badly or if it is unfit for consumption?

But if the _taste_ of a perfect pint of Lambic is the same as that of a pint of Real Ale that has been left to fester by an incompetent pub landlord what is the merit in brewing it in the first place?

Have you ever drunk a lambic/geueze?

A PINT? Even the most diehard of Brussels lambic drinkers would blanch at the thought of a pint of it.

Must be wimps then, especially as most of them come in 750ml bottles

Ehm... you don't know my friend Lorenzo and I! Laurant, can you tell the guy something about Kuaska? Bye!

Er... my friend Lorenzo and ME! My written English is a little bit rusty... Ciao!

In message , Jeff Pickthall wrote

Yes.

Those bottles are meant to be shared, not downed by one person... :o)

Both formats in most breweries, but in teh Case of cantilon, 750ml definitely is the preferred format.

I know his friend Walter and I think I've met him.

Does the Rose and Crown in Clapham Old Town mean anything? - ask Lorenzo.

Are we talking about the same people?

Cue story of the EHO who asked a cheese stall if they were aware they had mouldy cheese on the stall...

Er... I suppose you've met me, too! I was at the Rose and Crown for Walter "birthday party" on that... saturday (?) night. So... Lorenzo is Lorenzo!!! Bye, Nicola

The best cheese I have tasted in my life was a superb Roquefort that was so good that I thought that it would be a crime to eat it all in one session. The following morning I dove to the fridge but to my horror I found the cheese has turned into a stinking mess. I regret leaving it to this day. I suppose this means that perfection in a Roquefort is just before decomposition.

-- Dave Croft Warrington England

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Pretty much the case for Hanssens and the best beers of Boon and Lindemans (the Cuvee Renee, anyway) too, and of course the wonderful lambic-based beers from Drie Fontienen. When I think of brands most commonly marketed in 375ml bottles, I come up with the likes of Mort Subite and Belle-Vue. Ho hum.

In message , "Oh, Guess" writes

Most live beers seem to do better in bigger bottles, so its not too surprising that brewers prefer 75cl over 37.5, or that brewers of kiddie beers like Belle-vue prefer child size measures ;)

The difference can be extreme when you go to 1.5l or bigger. I'm not sure I could find enough like minded friends to share 1.5l of good lambic beer though ;)

Not if the only people available to share one with wouldn't appreaciate it.

Anyway, I don't see why it's anymore of a feat to drink 750ml of a lambic than a traditional cider.

Even better, I've seen Belle-Vue in 33cl tins!

I can - did recently. Four of us. Actually, we went through something like 4.5l between us. It was a good time, but then, that's to be expected for four people who very much like authentic lambics.

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