Six point scale for beer quality

Twere just the addition of an "i" to a term used by another M'lud. As it stands the re-typing of sh*te could just as easily come as sh8te if I'd failed to hit the shift key, as it was I hit the "i" and let it stand since this was the sense of the original use with a * in the middle.

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many unRA beers do get rated by me, & lots of other drinkers (eg go see the excellent

Which I think you would agree was simply Mike reacting to a dismissal of non-RA as "simply not rated"

Which where a system fails. The drinkers should make a judgement on the non-compliant brews for comparison. They are likely to score rather low are they not? Is this not good PR, that what the campaign is campaigning for scores higher?

True. Simply me reading more than one post, and remembering the content.

I suspect the blame may have lain more with the landlord than the brewer.

If my bread goes stale, I don't blame the baker. Good quality fresh bread will go stale a lot quicker than mass-produced, chemical-filled sliced pap.

Beer is no different. That's simply the price one pays for buying a fresher (but perishable) product.

BTN

Blimey, you sound just like that Lager advert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Puzzled

I'd agree with you but for the fact that the brewer I had foremost in my mind had beer appearing at various beer festivals [1] and pubs where I trusted the cellarmanship and the best the products ever got was as high as "nondescript, not worth drinking" Often you can blame the cellarman, but not every time.

No, I'm not going to name them, they aren't the only ones anyway.

It's the Dent brewery, isn't it?

BTN

Further north, right end of the alphabet.

Hmm... you can't go much further than Dent without getting into wee jock ghillie McShit land, and there all bets are off I'm afraid.

Are there any Scottish breweries other than Harviestoun and Isle of Arran that produce pleasant beers?

BTN

Pink Panther?

Does this mean 'correct' end of the alphabet, or the right-hand end when reading left-to-right?

(Doesn't help much when using alphabetti-spaghetti, though...)

Allan Bennett Not a fan of riddleses

Orkney!

Ben Nunn4/12/03 11:16 AM

Scotland is really rather good. They're quite friendly; you should go up there sometime.

I had an interesting seasonal brew recently at JDW called "Santa's Little Helper" from Caledonian in Edinburgh - A.B.V. 3.7, IIRC.

There are a couple of US brews with that name and one at least is very high alcohol 10%+. But this was a very quaffable full flavoured sup. I really liked it on the night and ended up having three.

CR

I think that is an example of one of the CAMRA rosie-tinted myths - "the brewers can do no wrong, bad beer is the fault of moneygrabbing and incompetent landlords".

Although there is a small element of truth in it - good beer, to remain good beer, must be handled by someone who knows what he is doing - fails to take into account that breweries are not completely guilt free. Working under tight margins, breweries do turn a blind eye to substandard batches which are approved for sale. My local brewery (I live in Wandsworth) in recent years was doing this regularly. A good friend (who shall remain nameless) who was on the brewing staff (since departed) would tell me the gory details quite regularly.

Jeff, you really should subscribe to the cask-uk mailing list. There are a lot of posters on their with similar views to yourself.

I hesitate to agree with a Pickthall but on this occasion Jeff is absolutely right (despite the predictable jibe at CAMRA). We do need to accept that some breweries big and small, produce rubbish beer and we should say so - the trouble is that when we enter these particular waters there is always the inevitable blurring between people criticising beers they just don't happen to like and those that are just plain bad.

John C

And you also find some licensees who manage to coax a significant amount of extra quality out of beers such as Tetleys and Boddingtons that are widely derided as bland and lacklustre - which suggests it is far from uncommon to put too much emphasis on intrinsic beer quality and not enough on standard of cellarmanship.

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Sure. Orkney, Bridge of Allan, Caledonian, Houston, Black Isle, Heather Ale, Skye...

Where is this mailing list to be found?

JP

It's a Yahoo group