Co-worker's first batch

Mar 19, 2005 9 Replies

A co-worker of mine decided to also get into home-brewing after I mentioned that I was. He obtained his equipment sooner than I was able to, and has already boiled his first batch. I stopped by his house while he was in the middle of boiling, and he has now informed me that he's not quite sure he did it properly.


  • He boiled 3 gal water, then added (1) can of hopped Bavarian Lager LME (not sure of brand), 2 lbs of light DME, and boiled for another 45-60 minutes.
  • Cooled in an ice bath down to 95° F, poured into fermenter (6.5 gal plastic bucket) with fresh boiled water (still at 110° F).
  • Pitched (1) pkg of rehydrated yeast. He transferred solution back and forth and shook, to produce oxygen for the yeast.
  • Took a hydrometer reading of 1.036 (I believe temp conversion should be

1.0411).
  • Added lid and air-lock, and placed in bathroom closet to sit.

It has been one week since I witnessed most of the above, and he has told me that he thinks it's ruined. He told me that after 24 hours he did NOT see any real bubbling in the airlock. He let it go until yesterday (still with NO activity). He took off the lid to investigate, and did not see any signs of fermentation. He replaced the lid and returned it to it's place until he could figure out what to do. Today, he called and said that the airlock is "bubbling slightly, at a rate of approximately 20 per minute, and now has a slight odor".



Is it possible that the batch has bacteria in it now, and is ruined? Or since the batch was relatively warm it used up all of the oxygen and him opening the lid allowed more oxygen to be supplied, and has now reactivated the yeast?



I told him to let it continue, but am unsure as to how much longer (complete time etc..). He's concerned that there may be bacteria, and don't want to risk it.



Any suggestions?


It sounds like he did pretty good. My only comment would be that he should have waited for things to cool more before pitching the yeast. I typically wait until the temperature is below 85 F. If it went a whole week before bubbling, it is possible that much of the yeast got killed by the high temperatures, and it just took a week for the survivors to replicate enough times to begin serious fermentation. Either that, or he didn't pitch enough yeast. It sometimes helps to use two packets of yeast instead of one. It is also possible that it could be bacteria. The only way to find out for sure is to wait about a week now and then open it up, smell it, taste it. If bacteria have gotten in there it will be utterly nasty stuff. It could taste like vomit or worse. Hopefully it will taste just like a good beer and everything will be fine. I'm guessing the yeast just got off to a late start, either because of high temperature or not enough yeast cells pitched. Time will tell.

There's nothing wrong with it, he just forgot to aerate the chilled wort for the yeast to get a good strong fermentation going from the beginning.

-gcitagh

Thank you for such a quick response, he'll be happy to know that there's nothing wrong with it. Should he aerate it any more, or is what been done sufficient?

No, don't aerate it anymore! If it is bubbling then it's fine. At this stage of fermentation, aeration could oxidize the beer and make it taste like crap. Just let it run its course, everything should be okay.

If he pitched the yeast into 110F wort, then he may well have killed his yeast.

I thought that too, but like I mentioned in the original posting - he called and said that the airlock is "bubbling slightly, at a rate of approximately

20 per minute, and now has a slight odor".

Has the yeast somehow reactivated, or did the hot wort (in a sense) steal the oxygen that was introduced from the aeration, and since he opened the lid it allowed more oxygen to be supplied?

Well, it's up to you. It'll get the job done this way, but will take longer and thus a higher chance of infection. On the other hand, opening the lid introducing oxygen and sloshing it around with the lid back on also increases the chances of infection. If it's really annoying about how slow it's going I'd go ahead and open the lid to get more oxygen in there; also make sure that the air is free of dust and smoke. If yeast is cheap, your friend could prepare a small yeast starter of corn sugar and warm water to repitch the yeast or could take some of the wort stuff in the fermentor adding sugar and beating it with an egg whippet and letting that rest until it foams up good and pitching that back into the fermentor. Another thing would be to warm the fermentor with a heat pad near the bottom on the side. This could be due to it being too cold. Hope all is well,

-gcitagh

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:07:12 -0600, "Stone-ok" said in alt.beer.home-brewing:

The hot wort may well have killed the yeast and what he's seeing now may well be bacterial or wild yeast action. Also, pitching dry yeast into wort isn't the healthiest thing for the yeast - it should be rehydrated first.

Pitching ale yeast should be done at around 68 degrees - certainly no higher than 70 degrees - that's getting into "off flavor" range.

The only thing he can do now is let it ferment out and taste it when it's done. It may surprise us all and turn out very good.

It sounds like he just killed some of the yeast to me and it has taken a while for the remaining live yeast to build up enough force to actually make enough of a difference. It sounds fine. This Odor your talking about.. have you smelt it? I remember my first batch because of the strange smell I thought it was off..

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