Floating things?

Vineagar rinse? What's up with that? HJ

Open one now and see what's up. 1.5 weeks is plenty of time to get carbonation (I usually wait a whole 2 days! :)

If it tastes OK, then don't worry! (Most common infections will make it sour).

Is it possible that it is just yeast? If not, it could be debris from your dishwasher. Even if bottles are the only thing you put through the dishwasher, there could be food and crusted gunk hiding out in your dishwasher that found its way inside your bottles. Personally I would never use a dishwasher to sterilize. Unless your dishwasher is brand new or in pristine condition, I believe it is risky.

Just using white vinegar as a replacement for the rinse agent in the dishwasher - does pretty much the same thing.

Hmmm

Inspection today seems to indicate it has gone away.

Could be the temperature drop, but I suspect that the kids may have shaken up the bottles at some point, and it was some subset of the lees floating around.

Will wait a couple of weeks and sample a bottle.

White vinegar is distilled, I think? If so, it shouldn't be an infection source. The bacteria that make vinegar are unwanted guests in most home brewing situations, as far as I know.

Karl S.

Also the dishwasher "bakes" the bottles after rinsing - which I was assuming was hot enought to kill any bad micro-organisms that may be left lurking in the bottles

The heat in your dishwasher, even in the dry cycle, is nowhere near hot enough to kill most micro-organisms. Hell, some microorganisms can even survive the heat of pressurized steam within an autoclave, and that is a fair amount above boiling point for water.

The soap in the dishwasher helps clean and disinfect the dishes, but the heat within it was never meant to sanitize the dishes - merely to help dry them faster, thereby helping reduce both drying time AND spotting on glasses/dishes.

I wouldn't rely on the dishwasher to sanitize your bottles.

use a flashlight from behind the bottle.

when you look at it does it leave a black line on the surface edge of the beer? saw many omments of sterilizing a beer bottle. (well perhaps waving a pregnant duck over your cleanedd bottles will suffice, but here is something that works for me. i wash and clean the bottles in the ishwasher lower shelf. then i put the bottles into the oven at 450 fahreheit, for 2 hours. i do not touch them agian until i reload the bottles.

this is far beyond needs but who cares.

This really isn't very efficient in cleaning bottles. Dishwashers have a very hard time getting water up inside the entire bottle, due to their narrow necks and wide bottoms. You could rinse the bottle very well first to get out any crud, but then you wouldn't need to put them in the dishwasher to clean them.

I bet. If you did touch them you'd burn the holy living cr*p out of your fingers!

I wouldn't use soap, or at least not ordinary dish soap. It will leave a film inside the bottle, interfering with head retention when you pour (if you care about your beer having a head, take note!).

I just r>Watch oven sterilizing! Yes, they are sterilized, but the high heat will,

agreed dishwasher sanitize is not kool. i wrote a page on the technique i use with the dishwasher. find it somewhere on this page.

vinegar rinse is OKAY, but not really a great highlight. it only makes a clear finish to wash a window. streaking is usually caused by hard water. take a small jar you can seal, mix, dishwash detergent and washing soda. about 2 to 1 mix. don't BUY cheap soap to begin with. considering this chat is also about the plates you eat off, cheap is not a good thing, unless eating residue is a good thing for you.

dishwasher is merely a cleaner. the oven is my AUTTOCLAVE.

no clue of what the floater is. but in a few days take a beer into the sunlight. without shaking it or anything. observe if you see a black line on the top where the liquid is. you will notice it by tilting the bottle 45 degrees. a thin black line is bacteria infection.

personally, if i got that, i just dump it. i do not enjoy the taste.

before you get heavy on just make a new batch. where did the bacteria come from?

did you wash your hands before you started? beer bottle day tends to be inflicting buddies into slavery around here.

the weakest link is the easiest link for contamination.

my bathroom has a bar of sunlight lye laundry soap bar. And the guys must wash their hands by singing the happy birthday song 3 times, while they wash.

some of them are so covered in grease, i make them wear plastic gloves.

oh, i have 3 cats. So them finding 3 or 4 guys in the kitchen and dining room on their knees, is a big temptation. so they pat the cats. change the gloves dude. is the next comment.

just implying the clean bottle is not the only consideration. and you notice i completely let the idea slide by, about having 3 or 4 guys on their knees in the kitchen. Harleqiun romances will have a book out about it next month no doubt.

what was i talking about? i forgot. see you later.

Dug88 do you get any smashing at that temp? how do you fit them all in your oven?

will this also work for plastic ones? *smile*

besides being a slightly challenged person. i assume you do more than rinse out the crud and refill it. which part did you disagree with? the checking for bacterial infection, cleaning in a dishwasher, waving a pregnant duck over your cleaned bottles. or putting the cleaned bottles into the oven and heating and cooling them, before filling them. somehow COOLING the bottle does not seem to have occured to you. i find no problem giving you the STATUS of the page. but being a bitch, just for being a bitch, is not helping the people asking questions. i assume they have books, i suggested one several times. good info.

what? wow! didn't know that maybe you should tell dow corning and pyrex that their glass oven products will break with the smallest touch.

tell ya what bitch at me anytime when you know zero about zero please shut up. you guys did some good but WRONG ideas, can put you in a dark spot.

oh and never get too busy to delete my word count, to make youself pretty. what you do for sanitary is up to you, i could care less. pick your nose and flick a booger if it is good for you.

Bingo. Putting bottles in a dishwasher to clean them is not effective. The shape of the bottles prevents the water stream from completely cleaning them..

Well that may be your method, but do you enjoy the flavor imparted in your beer as the duck craps in the bottles prior to you filling them? I wouldn't!

Completely unecessary, and frankly overkill. No-rinse chemical sanitization is easier, quicker, and possibly less harmful to the bottles.

Your completely wrong and bad advice also doesn't help those asking questions. That's what I object to. Yet you keep posting your patently bad advice........