25 yr old aged tie guan yin

l visited the anxi mountains a few days a go and observed the entire process of how the tie guan yin teas are made, really interesting stuff. There are so many small familes processing this tea and then they rush it off to the market. I noticed that there are guys all over the fields spraying chemicals on the bushes to kill the bugs, which was quite an eye opener and as you drive a long there are tea leaves being withered on top of concrete buildings and people sitting around tables sorting the leaves and guys on motorbikes flying around the corners with teas on big bags. What a business

The best part was I was given at the one factory some aged tie guan ying , it looked dark, the leaves really krinkled and hardly a smell to it. Apparantely it is kept in porcelin pots and has to be fired evry year in a wok to keep the moisture out and maintain its quality. After tatsing it I was totally blown a way . This tea is really really nice. Crisp honey fired notes and a woody taste which is subtle and friendly and this tea just made brew after brew after brew and still had a dominant character. I asked for half a pound but they only gave a small sample in a tiny zip lok bag which is now safely in a sealed tin in my soitcase. did not know that aged oolong existed.. and thank you Yigo , for those who dont know ,Yigo contacted me through this forum and he lives in china ,and I called him when I arrived in china as promised and invited him to join me on this adventure and of course he dived at the opertunity and we had a very fruitful experience together.

Maurice

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magicleaf
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This "spray chemicals on just about everything" in China is very scary to me. Ortho is supplying many of the pesticides that are illegal here to growers in China. Perhaps it's a good idea to let all the vendors we shop with know that there is concern. Happy Earth Day! Shen

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Shen

Actually there are many other downers, but I do not want to put things in a negative perspective. I saw some unsavoury things that made my eyes open. One good thing I did learn only a few days a go was that the chinese people always wash or rinse the tea. I did not know this. But its a blady good idea :) after what I saw so I guess they do this for cleaning the leaves for a good reason. Maurice

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magicleaf

Wonder how well that works? A lot of the "best" pesticides aren't very water-soluble; some are applied in oil emulsion, e.g. Makes sense, since they wouldn't be as effective if washed off immediately by rain. Another project for a lab rat with an HPLC.

-DM

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DogMa

Do tell, please.

Phyll

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Phyll

I hear the chinese mafia are ruthless , if I shed bad light on there industry I may have trouble sleeping at night :)

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magicleaf

The Chinese mafia tends to be ruthless among themselves, but polite to foreigners ...

Interesting you mention about tea washing.

There was similar post sometimes before and it was said pesticide stays inside the leaves and doesn't come out easily...

For tea like Da Hong Pao it is re-infused up to 9 times.

Perhaps over-infusing is also a risk as much as tea washing (for oolong tea) is a benefit.

Julian

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juliantai

I never saw green tea rinsed before until I moved to Southern China. The green tea I had drank before was beautifully clean...the stuff here that you get may or may not contain pencil lead...

Buyer beware...really.

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Mydnight

It would be difficult to identify a more innocuous adulterant than pencil lead, which consists mainly of clay and graphite and is entirely insoluble in water. However, the point stands.

Is there any progress on credible organic standards and labeling in China?

-DM

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DogMa

OK, I need to ask the question - why pencil lead ?

Cheers Mal Oz

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Mal from Oz

Where was your previous location, with the clean green tea? Any sources for U.S. customers?

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teaholic

Ya'll can do a search on a previous post I made about contamination with lead. I provided a link that did research on some tea in Guangzhou's Fangcun tea market. The found things ranging from DDT to lead in various teas.

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Mydnight

Before I lived in a far-away place in China's Western/Central Sichuan province. Clean tea for export, I seriously doubt that would ever occur.

There are NO organic standards in China that are credible. The best thing they have come up with so far is little stickers that read "organic" in Chinese and sometimes in English. It's meaningless.

There WILL NEVER be organic in China. As long as things are the way they are here, you will always find people that can BUY their products into the "organic" category. Maybe it's time to start looking into Japanese teas more than Chinese teas.

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Mydnight

What do you think of BaoZhong, LiShan, or other Taiwan tea, as regards pollution?

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teaholic

According to my experience living in China, there are some Organic teas here...

  1. The teas people get from factories are hard to say, because as Maurice mentioned before, the factory usually get teas from tea- farmers, and in this situation, the pesticides are often used; otherwise the tealeaves would be full of holes from bugs.
  2. The tea farmers never drink teas that have used pesticides, it's totally organic. Because this tea is not for sale.

Well, until now, there are so many brands in market say that their teas are organic, but usually, who knows?...

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yigocheng

I have some tea which is labelled "MADE FROM PLANTS WITHOUT ANTISEPTIC."

I regret to say that FCC interference certifications in the US are no better.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

Couple months ago i requested teaandcoffee.net do a subject on contamination of tea. They said it'll take about 1 year to do it. Maybe if some more from this group ask for it they may take more interest in the article.

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SN

The Taiwanese claim that their teas are pure and that the Chinese use additives. The Chinese claim that their teas are pure and that the Taiwanese use additives. Your guess is as good as mine, but I am honestly more predisposed to believe the Taiwanese because they have higher standards with their teas and most products they make.

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Mydnight

Thank you. I've ordered some Taiwan tea, and Shincha from Japan.

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teaholic

In the future I'll be sure to order my Chinese teas from Japan. Problem solved.

Jim

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Space Cowboy

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