An invitation and some inf re pgwk

OK, Peter, I'm not normally one to lose it but you have managed to help me do so. So here is my invitation: To come down from high and ground yourself a bit, tea is an excellent way to do it if tea is pursued for the right reasons and we are all more than willing to have another friend.

Now, because of your misinformation and FUD I'm going to offer some information on this Google thing called RFDT... or maybe Usenet... or is it Google Usenet? Oh wait but you are "regularly ranked in the top ten consultants in the world in the IT field" so you must know this.

Here is some information:

Amazon.com Review of "The Freedom Economy"

** (out of 5) A manager's garden of misinformation...., October 9, 2001 Reviewer: A reader I bought this book because it sounded like the authors had a clear picture of the way ahead in mobile commerce. Unfortunately, it does not live up to this promise. Some of the case studies and analyses are thought-provoking. For example, the classification of a mobile application as a 'feature', 'convenience', or 'freedom' is a good way to evaluate its worth. However, the good parts are offset by convoluted writing, repetition, and errors in both facts and analysis. We learn that SMS is a 'Simple Messaging System' (it really stands for 'Short Message Service'). The authors also seem confused about WAP, a suite of standards designed to work with cellular networks and limited mobile devices. Equating WAP with early personal computers, the authors paint WAP as being slow and a 'convenience'. The real limitation here is current 2G networks and handsets, not WAP (which actually helps things run faster and more reliably).

I did manage to wade through the entire book, but the technical errors and stream-of-conciousness (unedited?) writing made this a chore. Sadly at the end of this, I do not feel that this book does much to clear the muddied waters of mobile commerce...

... oh, and 35 are available used from $0.17. Yep seventeen cents. So everyone hurry out to get a copy.

Amazon.com

*** (out of 5) Glossary is not Cross Referenced as Advertised, February 6, 1997 Reviewer: A reader Mr. Keen's idea for the format of this book is good and the front cover tauts 40 additional new terms that were not included in the First Edition. The idea behind this book is that if you look up one term in the glossary (95% of this book is a glossary) at the end of the entry for the term you looked up there is a list of additional terms to cross reference for a more in-depth understanding of the concepts presented. For example: You can look up EDI or Electronic Data Interchange. It will cross reference you to an entry for "PLATFORM". You can look up the term "Architecture" and it will also cross reference and guide you to read the entry for "PLATFORM". You can look up the term "Network" and it will also instruct you to cross reference the listing for the term, "PLATFORM". HOWEVER, WHEN YOU GO TO LOOK UP "PLATFORM", IT IS NOT LISTED ANYWHERE IN THE BOOK! IT IS ALSO NOT INCLUDED IN THE INDEX. The copy editors get paid big bucks to check out this kind of thing and they totally blew it!..Especially, Harvard Business School Press as the publisher should know better. You can expect this kind of thing to happen with the first edition must it should not happen in the 2nd edition.

(so you got two editions of a book which is basically a big Glossary, and yet it suffers from editing and focus issues too. hmmm)

Some more information:

Most of the books "you wrote" they seem to have quite a number of co- authors, and you seem to contribute a section or two... and then there are the few that you wrote by yourself and amazingly they all seem to falter and are lacking as seen from the reviews. Here is a link to help visualize it:

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From your old site... (why was it taken down to a 404 error? c'mon

your a top consultant and top 100 "guru" a website should be nothing)

"three years, he has worked in Mexico, Slovenia, Canada, Australia, Germany, The Netherlands, Spain, Finland, Denmark, Poland, the United States, Slovenia, the UK, France, Sweden, Switzerland, Portugal, and Chile."

So you spent what 1-2 months at each place? You must be amazing to be able to contribute meaningful and in-depth solutions, knowledge, consulting, teaching, thinking, and whatever else all in the span of

30-60 days in so many countries.

Here's our boy:

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Back to that top 100 guru line that is so pervasive but mysteriously absent from anywhere but in your tag lines... care to share a link or the full story on it?

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OK, so enough now. You are who you are, personally, I see you as bullshit... but I'd rather folks make up their own minds. What I want you to see is that everyone can puff their chest and spin and distort themselves to be anything (especially on the Internet), and it is even easier to begin to believe your own hype. But honestly come back down to ground level and try honesty and harmony and balance. And even more so, just be a normal guy, we'll still respect you...maybe more.

- Dominic

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Dominic T.
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I'm Switzerland.

I didn't find pgwk to be aloof or parading himself as high and mighty in matters of tea or any other. Look, this board is about tea, and pgwk was asking for TEA recommendations. To quote pgwk in his orginal post:

"I am a pygmy in the field and neither knowledgeable nor an industry expert, but I do have some visibility in the business and academic fields, where a few people are finding out about my interest in tea and my forthcoming book."

Whatever ensued in the other thread that is non-tea related...just ignore them. I didn't even bother to read anybody's rant, including pgwk's own, about Space Cowboy.

I've experienced and mediated tougher online quarrels before as a moderator of a wine forum (drunk democrats vs. drunk republicans...all accomplished individuals, imagine that!). This is nothing.

Lighten up, people. Or should we change this board name to: Rec.Food.Drink.Tea.And.Character.Assasination?

Phyll

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Phyll

It takes a lot for someone to get under my skin, but this guy managed to. If you look through all of my posts here you could count on one hand the number of times I have got angry at someone. All of them involve scams, unscrupulous merchants, SPAM, or outright lies.

I'm not sticking up for or attacking anyone, what I wanted to do was to bring things back to reality. I hate when people trump themselves up falsely especially in the field of IT. I have no tolerance for "consultants" who are full of it. I've been in this field a long time and have seen my share, and I've seen the aftermath. Small businesses having to close up shop due to bad consultants only concerned about lining their own pockets, and the general fleecing of undeserving folks. It hits a nerve in the very core of my body.

This guy has all the hallmarks. Half-truths and deception. Do a Google search for Peter Keen. Notice how each and every hit is the same blurb about his status as "Top 100 business guru" but it is never finished with the full real "award" which was actually just a survey and even that is nowhere to be found. But every blurb cites it. He has written "30 books" when in reality many are small sections and co-authoring. He works for all of these universities, but really he has been supplanted at Delft, and teaches small elective lectures that span all of 4 hours and are self-promoting his books... I wonder what book is required for the "class."

I work in higher education, and have for some time. I have seen many folks just like this, and sadly they are tolerated and earn a pretty penny at it too. I have no patience for it, and then to have a "pygmy's" knowledge but write a scholars book is WRONG! And then to claim this is some little event for no gain that he needs some help selecting a few teas for (and leaving many out due to lack of knowledge or proper skill to brew) is just stupid. It's bullshit, and I'm calling it. Plain and simple.

Now if Mike Petro were to be giving a talk on Pu-erh and plugging a book I would be first in line to buy it and support him... why? because he is a damn authority on his topic and has never had any financial or alterior motive here on RFDT EVER.

It is that simple.

- Dominic

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Dominic T.

there's a good idea

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Alex

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