Raw Puer in the Twin Cities

Hi All, I stumbled upon some raw puer at the Shuang Hur supermarket in St. Paul on University. It's labeled as a Xia Guan first grade 100g tuo. I think it's the real deal, as it has the mark imprinted in the tea itself. Judging by the taste, I think it's quite young. For the puer experts: how do I ascertain the age of the tuo? There doesn't appear to be a number that would indicate the year. There are two different four digit numbers on the back of the box, the first is

9833.5 (suppose that's five), and below that is 9679. For those of you looking for this stuff in the TC, beware: Shuang Hur stocks both cooked and uncooked versions of this tuo. They are in mixed together, and I accidentally purchased a cooked one along with the uncooked, because the two packages are identical (as far as I can tell). Don't be afraid to open them up and take a peek. The folks there are very nice.

Regards, Nico

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Nico
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Ah the thrill of the hunt and kill. Lot more fun than looking at two dimensional pictures on websites. What did the boxes and wrappers look like? Did you mean the bottom of the box? Was it Chinese characters interspersed with numerals? If so the last set of numerals which looks more like stamped ink than typeface will indicate the year and month. The Xiaguan Millenia tuocha box 2000 has something that looks like . I guess you paid much less than the websites charged for this year. The numbers you mentioned are also on mine. According to a recent post the G imprint was used on First(Jia) grade 1995 and later. Another grade called Special (Te) 2003 and later.

Jim

Nico wrote:

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Space Cowboy

Nico,

GB9833.5 indicates the production quality control standard GB9679 indicates the 'safety' (cleanliness in the production line, etc) quality control standard

These are not indications of year, though they can be used as a gauge to determine the Period of production. The wrapper inside can tell you more. The logo on the wrapper The design layout on the wrapper The nos. printed on the wrapper These are the clues, again not to a specific date, but to narrow the period of production further

Danny

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hanry

Hanry,

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Danny

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samarkand

Interesting,

It all turned out gibberish!

:)

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samarkand

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Space Cowboy

My guess you don't have multicharacter language support turned on in your newsreader. It is sometimes refered to as Unicode. If it isn't turned on then the two bytes that make up a Simplified or Traditional Chinese character gets truncated to one and gibberish.

Jim

samarkand wrote:

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Space Cowboy

sounds interesting. I think communication is most important. We Chinese discuss Pu-er with you American, Englishman, Canadian, or any other country. Do you like this? If so, i can build a website for you.

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hanry

I was waiting for the pitch. Now go on to the next group and load up a photo album of what they're discussing, do a few translations, and pitch it again. This group has enough invested commercial interest.

Jim

hanry wrote:

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Space Cowboy

If you are speaking of something that is not commercial I think it is a good endeavor. We have too little trustworthy information directly from China. It would be wonderful to have Chinese participation in trying to learn more about puer. Especialy when it comes to translation etc.

Howeve be aware that any commercial advertising would be greatly frowned upon here. This group is for learning, not selling.

Mike

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Mike Petro

sounds interesting. I think communication is most important. We Chinese discuss Pu-er with you American, Englishman, Canadian, or any other country. Do you like this? If so, i can build a website for you.

By God, yes! I think a lot of us are yearning for a source of sound info on Chinese tea, especially pu-ehr from the source. I'm working on learning Chinese but that will take a while yet.

Nico

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Nico

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