Bad pu-erh - Yunnan Tribute Tea - similar experiences?

Hi tea fans!

After having good luck with my first venture into pu-erh teas with the inexpensive "Lucky" brand Yunnan Tuocha, I ventured to Wing Hop Fung in Monterey Park, CA to try some other pu-erh teas. I've found Wing Hop Fung to be a rather good retailer of Chinese products, and the store is well-regarded by the local Chinese community. Thus I figured it was a safe place to go.

I bought two teas, one packaged in a box labeled "Yunnan Tribute Tea" and another whose brand was in chinese but featured a rooster on its paper wrapper. They cost about USD $6/cake.

The Yunnan Tribute Tea featured a different pressed symbol on each side. This same tea can be found by googling "Yunnan Tribute Tea", for sale by Tenren (for a much higher price than I paid!). I tried the cake tonight and found the first two brewings (done gongfu style) to border on rancid. The smell of the brick hinted at this before I brewed it, but I tried it anyway. Subsequent brewings were just ok. The cake seemed very dark--I figured it was cooked rather than raw and aged, especially considering the price. I'm wondering if this is an example of wet storage pu-erh? It had a clear red liquor, but smelled like pesticides.

The Rooster tea smelled much better, but was also very rancid in taste. Its liquor was yellow-green and cloudy, and the flavor reminded me of a poorly stored or low grade pouchong, maybe even kudingcha! I thought perhaps it was just a very young cake, considering it would have been produced this year or for release this year, but the cake was brown, so I didn't think it could be that young. The leaves were present on the outside, but inside the tea was like mush. I wish I could find this particular cake online for reference, but this is all the info I have on it.

I was wondering if others on this board had similar experiences with either of these teas, or if they enjoyed them. I don't know if these are just examples of bad pu-erh or if my palate hasn't quite graduated to finer pu-erh sensibilities.

Anyway, all replies appreciated.

Reply to
jason.fasi
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That's BAD puerh! Nothing wrong with your taste buds. I would actually advise you to not drink anymore, likely to do you more bad than good.

James

Reply to
jh010270

The cooked stuff is likely just bad. Bad cooked puer is readily available in asian markets. From my experience, which is limited, you're best off getting your stuff compressed. I have found compressed stuff to generally better than loose stuff in asian markets. Also, look for tuochas that come in green cylinder-shaped boxes with Yunnan Tuocha printed on the top. These are from the famous Xia Guan Factory and are quite good if brewed correctly.

As for the other one, I think the rooster is the Six Famous Tea Mountain factory. The taste may stem from its being new. I've been using somewhat cooler water for new puer. I think they need to be brewed like green tea.

If you can, give the puer a sniff before you buy it. That in itself should tell you if something is really bad.

Nico

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Nico

I am doubtful that this is the 6FTM cake as the one from them for "The year of the Rooster" is premium priced, even in China, and targeted at collector types. I doubt it was available for $6 here in the states, although it hard to tell for sure without a picture. Go to this site and look at the logo,

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is that logo on the cake anywhere? If you hunt around the cake is probably on that site as that is the factories webpage.

Mike Petro

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Mike Petro

You're on the right track. It took me about ten purchases from Chinatown and China to realize the cooked taste can vary and you will like some more than others but in the end it is like drinking beer. You get use to the taste. Don't worry about the price. Be glad you can find it cheaper in Chinatown. I also recommend drinking cooked with a meal especially greasy ones. Then you can graduate to just by itself. Also a little black goes a long way. I've only got one impressed cook. I would guess that is a sign of better quality. You sure the Rooster isn't a Swan. I checked my captured images from TaoBao and didn't see any Roosters.

Jim

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Reply to
Space Cowboy

Might be a good idea to try your first pot of a new puerh in a glazed or cast iron pot, and if it passes muster, then brew subsequent batches in the yixing?

Reply to
stePH

I tend to us gaiwan for new teas, at least until I get to them a bit.

Mike Petro

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Mike Petro

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