I heard about Pu'erh yesterday and I'm intrigued. After reading the About.com article, which is really just one guy's opinions, I am curious what you folks think is the best type of Pu'erh to get. My local Asian supermarket sells a few kinds of Pu'erh.
For instance, is there a particular Chinese brand that is good or bad? And which is best approach to fermentation? My goals are improved health, since this tea has been shown to lower cholesterol, and flavor.
Also, (since I am also posting this to soc.culture...) if the container lacks any English text, what characters indicate the various characteristics?
Thanks.
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CharlesLiu
(Just for reference, SCC is an english-language group, and is currently filled with China haters, the kind that would attack paralympians in wheelchairs, you know...)
Anyway, to answer your tea question - it all depends on your taste. Check ebay for price/description, or simply buy some and try them. If you are lucky enough to have asian style tea shop, go and sample - but please buy something on your way out.
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J.Venning
A simple Google search yields 52,000 possible links to answer your question. Thar y'gaw:
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. Yes, this newsgroup is well known for its being troll-infested with anti China characters that vent their real-life frustrations in cyber space by bashing everything that is Chinese. J.
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rst0wxyz
Oh!! come om, JV, you're too hard on them. We are only pointing out divergent views of the subject under discussion.
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J.Venning
I'm not being hard on anyone. I just want people to know that this newsgroup, inappropriately called soc.culture.china, has very little to do with Chinese culture. The whole place is infested with anti China instigators like that h*mo Walsh, who vents his frustrations by condemning the Chinese government. J.
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Kevo
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is a good place 2 start...I think there is a glossary page. Lew's Babelcarp also has a glossary page for great reference.
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plenty900
I ended up going to an Asian supermarket and getting a disk ("cake") made by Yunnan Tea Co Ltd,
12 oz (340g) for US $7.
It's very good. The tea is dark red. Its flavor is somewhat better (to my palate) than other teas that I've tried, being slightly earthy, and with a slight hay-like scent.
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bmoore
Honest Charles isn't telling the whole truth... there are people who dislike China here, but there are also a large number of apologists for the Chinese government who will assert with a straight face things like China has freedom of speech and that anything bad you hear about China is a CIA plot.
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Raymond
Actually, that is hardly the case. Most westerners in here simply don't care about China. All they care about is their self gratifying political agenda in claiming their imaginary moral superiority.
As for the rest of yellow banana China haters, they are merely trying to make a pathetic living by making an arse out of themselves in here so that they can claim some kind of credit in begging for money from their white intelligence officers. They are actually more miserable than that Mickey Wong. Mickey Wong at least can claim to have a stable job who is on a mission which he himself believes in. These miserable losers, on the other hand, don't even dare to live like a decent man. They want to claim to be Americans, but no real Americans would give them a damn. They want to kiss you western devils' asses very much, but always end up gnawing at the bottom of your boots instead.
It is a disgusting sight, indeed.
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but there are also a large number of apologists
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pg
Is "Raymond" a Chinese name?
If a "Raymond" tells you that he is a Chinese, would you believe that?
There are Chinese and then there are bananas. Real Chinese don't use banana name, such as "Raymond".
On the other hand, banana can't help but have to use their banana names, for fear of being told to "go back to your boat".
Banana is banana. Yellow skin outside, white s*it inside.
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J.Venning
Many Chinese living in the West have non-Chinese-sounding first names. This is primarily to facilitate the pronunciation by Westerners who have trouble in reading and pronouncing Chinese names. Personally I had to change my Chinese name to my present one, because I was born in Indonesia, and during the purge of the Chinese there in the early 60's, the Indonesian government made it illegal for any Chinese to keep his/her Chinese name, in an effort to wipe out the Chinese identity amongst the Overseas Chinese living there; fortunately I emigrated to England. Again, your statement makes it very difficult for anyone to believe that you have been in China. Many Chinese in China now adopt English-sounding first names, a few of whom have taken random choices with some very amusing results. J.
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Balt
You got "shu pu-erh" - an artificially aged tea. Sometimes it's called "ripened pu-erh" More info here
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pg
Noted. But that "Raymond" banana really needs some updates. Banana is banana, nothing else matters.
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pg
By the way, all the time I stayed abroad I never use any "Raymond" or "Henry" name. Why? Because I am not a banana.
To say that the Westerners don't know how to pronounce Chinese names is an excuse.
I have had white friends, when they first know me, asked me why I don't use names like "Henry" or "Raymond". When I explained to them that my name was given by my parents, a blessing of sorts, and using the name they've given me is a respect, all my white friends agree with me, and some even asked me why other Asians (particularly Chinese bananas) want to adopt banana names --- I invite my white friends to post that question to those who prefer "Henry" to "Wei Peng" or "Mary" to "Xiao Ying".
Have you noticed that the majority of Japanese immigrants to the West do not use banana names?? I know several of them, some are 4th or 5th generation Japanese immigrants, don't speak a word of Japanese, don't eat Sushi, et cetera, but they still use 100% Japanese names !
When I asked them who they think they really are, all of my Japanese friends gave me the same answer: "Japanese !"
I have true respect for such people. They never forget their roots.
On the other hand, it's the chinky yellas that are ashame of their own roots. Even before they set foot on the West, they already adopted banana names. Some don't even speak English/French/Italian or whatever but Chinese, but still they carry names like "Tony Lam" or "Jim Wong" so damn proud that they don't even list their own Chinese names anymore !
To hell with those bananas.
I am a Catholic. Of course I have a Christian name when I was baptised. But I still do not use that name outside of the Church environment. Not because I am ashame or something, there's absolutely nothing to be ashame of being a Catholic, it's that I just can't see myself as a banana.
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J.Venning
We each have reasons for keeping our given names or taking on another, but whatever the reason, I don't think we should chastise others for not doing precisely what we do. I notice there is one poster from Singapore whose name is Wan Long Fak. Now, let me ask you, what sort of a name is that ? J.
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pg
Wan = King ? Long = Dragon ? Fak = Hair ?
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pg
I won't chastise anyone on the basis of name -- but will go after those bananas, with sharp knife, who are flaunting their bananas !! :)
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