I walked into my friendly neighborhood wine & spirits shop to see what they had in. I noticed my favorite Arbeg 10 back on the shelves at a remarkably low price of $37 (750 ml). I was about to get one when the clerk commented that it wouldn't be the same as the bottle I purchased two years ago.
That Ardbeg was pungent and peaty; it was also from some of the last production from the previous ownership. He informed me that the current version had changed with the new owners and didn't quite have the bite of the previous version. I left the shop with a bottle of Highland Park 12.
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n_cramer
I picked up a litre of Ardbeg 10 at the duty free store on my way back to the States for around $53. To my plebian taste, it's the most pungent, peaty Scotch I've ever tasted. I love it. Of course, I also love my Aberlour A'bunadh, Bowmore 17, Lagavulin 16 and the rest, but all in different ways.
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pavane
Well, the suggestion does come to mind that YOU might have bought and tasted it...
pavane
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cheeny weeny
You should have bought both. You can never have too much Scotch.
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y_p_w
Well - I was hoping that someone else might have tested the waters before I did. However - that doesn't sound like a bad idea at all, except that I would then have two open bottles of Ardbeg 10.
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pavane
Yeah, I hate it when that happens. You might use up some of the excess this way, though...should work well with Ardbeg:
Filet of Beef "Rothes House" Style (Adapted from a recipe by David Yeadon, executive chef of the Rothes House, Scotland. If you wish, serve this dish with mashed potatoes or other mashed root vegetables.)
1 (2 1/4-to-2 1/2-pound) prime filet of beef
8 slices bacon
2 to 3 tablespoons olive oil
1 large onion, roughly chopped
1 garlic clove, chopped
1 teaspoon tomato paste
1 heaping tablespoon flour
1 heaping tablespoon black peppercorns
1 cup beef stock
1 bay leaf
1/4 cup The Glenrothes Vintage Single Malt, or a hearty Highland Single Malt such as The Macallan
1/4 cup dry white wine
1 tablespoon heavy cream or crème fraîche Fresh herbs for garnish
Preheat oven to 425F. Place a roasting rack into a roasting pan.Wrap strips of bacon around the beef filet and tie at intervals with string. Place on the roasting rack. Roast for 25 to 45 minutes, depending on the desired doneness. (An instant-read thermometer will read 120F for rare; 125 to 130F for medium-rare; 135to 140F for medium.)
Meanwhile, pour remaining oil into a large skillet. Add onions and garlic and cook over medium heat, shaking the pan frequently, until soft and lightly browned, 5 to 10 minutes. Whisk in tomato paste, flour and peppercorns. Add stock and bay leaf and bring to a boil. Reduce heat to low and simmer gently until ready to serve.
When beef is done, remove it from oven. Carefully remove beef, on its rack, from the pan and let meat rest for 10 minutes.
Meanwhile, set the hot roasting pan on the stovetop over medium heat. Add about 1¼2 cup of sauce and stir, scraping any browned bits from bottom of pan. Pour contents of roasting pan into the sauce in skillet.
Strain sauce into a saucepan; discard solids. Set over medium heat and add whisky and wine. Bring to a boil, reduce heat and simmer for about 3 minutes. Season with salt and pepper to taste. Just before serving, add cream and remove from heat. Stir until thick and smooth.
When ready to serve, remove strings from beef. Slice and serve with sauce. Garnish with fresh herbs if desired. Makes 4 to 6 servings.
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Gordon
Hmmmm...is this another of them well informed shop workers (in the mould of the Fire at Lagavulin ones ....) . First a history lesson , Ardbeg was owned by Allied up until 1997 they did not distill between
1981 and 1989,they last released a 10yo in 1993 (it was actually closer to a 13yo ).glenmorangie took over in Feb 1997 and their first distillation was in June 1997 (the 25th to be more precise) they didn't release a 10yo till 2001 i think ( it was made up of whisky distilled by the previous owners ) , Glenmorangies own distilled spirit won't be released as a 10yo till at least 2007 ! If it's in the squatter , dumpier bottle it'll be the same stuff as you had 2 years ago , the previous owners stuff was in a standard shaped bottle and will have cost you a damn fortune and is rare as rockin' horses cr@p ! Phew !!!! To see the two different bottlings look here :-
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hope this helps You can get hold of the glenmo distilled whisky at the moment as the distillery released a committee bottling of 6yo , it's superb stuff . So to answer your original question , No ! Slainté Gordon
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Bart
Gordon,
Thanks for the good info. But there's a gap in the timeline above. What was happening between 1989 and 1997? I assume there was some production by Allied during that period which is used for the current and recent 10yo's...? Any info on that? And when was the less peated Ardbeg (Kildalton) made?
Impressive!
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Bart
y_p_w,
As others have already said, and said it better than I would have, the Ardbeg 10 hasn't changed in the last two years. There have been other changes at Ardbeg - the Ardbeg 17 is being phased out, and a new expression, Uigeadail, may soon be available here.
That being said, it's not unusual for small changes to occur between bottlings of the same label seperated in time by some years.
The producers try very hard for a consistent product under a continuous label. The individual differences from cask to cask get averaged together when a standard expression is vatted. The color can be adjusted, which bothers some people (and some more than others). But however hard they try, the flavor of selected single bottles will tend to drift a little bit around a hypothetical flavor target. This flavor drift is usually very small, unless there have been deliberate changes in the manufacturing process, sort of a "change in the recipe". Usually you could only tell it head to head, and then only on a good day, but sometimes it's enough to be noticible. There has been a lot of discussion in the last years as to whether or not Laphroaig was less peaty, for instance...
That's why I like to see frequent minor changes to the labels. We can then group similar production together, effectively dating a bottle. Springbank has often done this for us; whether by design or by the accident of bottling smaller vattings I don't know, but every year or two the same expression will have a slightly different label - a different colour, a change in a seal or a emblem, etc.
Sometimes it matters, as with Springbank during the nineties, but often enough it doesn't, because the drift is too small to notice. I haven't noticed any drift in Ardbeg 10; but I wasn't looking for it either, and I don't have a sample from a few years ago with which to compare a current bottle.
Bart
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Serge Valentin
Hi Gordon,
Always good to hear some deep specialists...
BtW, I've got a 10yo 'clear glass' just on my desk. Do you know what the difference is with the 'green glass' version, if any? A matter of years of bottling? And second, as for the oldest Glenmo version, is the 'white stripe' on the box a way of identifying the earliest bottlings or not? Always wondered...
Thanks in advance,
Sante
Serge
dans l'article snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com, Gordon à snipped-for-privacy@spirit-of-islay.co.uk a écrit le 4/03/04 9:29 :
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Gordon
Hi Guys , Serge - i don't know the difference between the Clear and green glass , different sized bottles for different Market ?
From November 1989 till late 1996 i think , Allied were distilling But not full time and the story goes that they were only using the stills everything else was been done at Laphroaig !(tankers used to ship it ). This is the stuff that goes into the current 10yo and the Uigeadail and also crops up in Indy bottlings from time to time . Slainté Gordon
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y_p_w
y_p snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com
I trust the people in this small neighborhood shop. Most of their employees have been working there for ages, and actually sample their offerings.
Now that I think of it, the allegation was that somehow the new owners had still changed the product since they first released it (although I now understand it would have been distilled under the old ownership). I might just go out and buy one to find out. I can try it side-by-side. with my older bottle.
Thanks.
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Bart
Thanks for the reply. I had heard that for a while the folks at Laphroaig were operating Ardbeg (like the men from Jura who were producing Bruichladdich during the JBB years), but I didn't realize how much was actually being done at the Laphroaig distillery. Very interesting stuff...
Bart
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