1961 Haut Brion, 1984 and 1985 Grange

May 23, 2010 6 Replies

Dinner with some wines we’d been saving.


2006 Loimer Gruner Veltliner Langenlois Spiegel – the only wine served blind. Clean fruit nose, mellow smooth presence in the mouth, just a slight bit spirity, balanced and pleasant.


1961 Ch. Haut Brion - Every once in a long, long while you get to taste a wine that is simply beyond criticism. It doesn’t happen often, but it happened to me for the first time this year and made the dinner a stand out event – best so far this year, by far. This was from a mid- shoulder fill bottle. The wine was amazingly dark, and the edges were not browning at all. The nose reminded me of walnuts and dark cherries, but very complex and on palate the wine was absolutely insanely good with a finish that went on for more than a minute. There was silence after we first tasted this, until my soft ‘Holy s~~t!’ (translated as ‘Oh my goodness!’). We were in the presence of greatness, and it was one of those times where I could not have come up with any niggling small criticism whatsoever, and I am good at being able to compare things like verticals of Ch. Margaux and opine as to how the 83 might fall slightly short of the equally superb 82. This wine, however, was literally beyond reproach and we sat in awe just enjoying it small sip by small sip, occasionally drawing away to nosh on some rare duck breast before going back for another small sample. This wine epitomizes why I love Bordeaux, and those who know me will know that I am not given to effusive praise – probably the opposite in fact. Wow!! We kicked around the hypothetical question as to what we might have guessed for vintage on this had we been tasting blind and all agreed that we’d probably have been around 20 -



30 years off the mark. This is very literally as good as it gets for claret.

After investigating the bottle for any errant drips, sediment or not, we went on to a completely different but very good pair of wines with lamb shanks.


1984 Penfolds Grange – I have always admired how old Max could make the wines that were at once both monumental yet somehow not monolithic. This is a skill that many a California producer could seek to emulate. This one was my favourite of the two. It demonstrated a dark colour with no browning, an excellent nose of blackberry and anise, with a little mint. immediate intense sweet fruit in the entry, massive weight and lots of softy tannins and a very long tasty finish, all accomplished with only 14.2% alcohol. 95% shiraz, 5% cabernet


1985 Penfolds Grange – a similarly big impressive wine, with a slightly lighter and less complex nose, harder tannins, good fruit, not as sweet as the 84 and more tannin coming in at the end. 99% shiraz, 1% cab. Good wine, but on this occasion, not as good as the



  1. We slowly worked on the two Aussie giants through the lamb and then cheese, before retiring, absolutely sated. Great tasting.


Bill thanks for the notes. The 61 Haut Brion is one of my favorites of all time. Well at least my time:) Ive been fortunate to have quite a few of that bottle.

Thanks for the tasting notes for the 1961 Haut Brion, as I still have a single bottle of it that has been properly stored. Hopefully mine will be as good as the one you had. It sounds as if your bottle was at the peak and likely will hold for some time. It might be interesting to compare it with the 1961 Latour, although the 1961 Latour likely can improve for many more years and the 1961 Haut Brion would appear to have peaked earlier than the Latour. Thus a direct comparison at one point in time might favor Haut Brion now and Latour many years from now. For those who did not buy the 1961 red Bordeauxs early on ( I believe the 1961 Lafite sold for about US$12 per bottle fairly early on), the auction price in the most recent Decanter was

1323 UK Pounds for a case of 12 bottles for the 1961 Haut Brion and 15400 Pounds for the Latour. Thus the Haut Brion is a relative bargin for mere millionaires who likely will leave the Latour for the billionaires. The 1961 Lafite is now 8699 UK Pounds per case. It may be that demand for it in China and other countries in the region is responsible for this very high price. But a case of 1961 Petrus goes for 74062 UK Pounds. I guess this wine is for the multi-billionaires who demand the most expensive.

Thanks for the notes. I've had the '61 Haut Brion on a couple of occasions in the past few years with much the same impressions. Holy s**t comes very close!

( I believe the 1961 Lafite sold for about US$12 per bottle

an absolute steal, 110gbp a bottle, ( depends on condition I suppose)

just put toe in water with 2009, Poujeaux at 210 gbp and Lanessan at 100gbp

have option on Pontet Canet, rumour has, More than

1000gbp.....................gulp

JT

100gbp | | have option on Pontet Canet, rumour has, More than | 1000gbp.....................gulp | | JT |

Yikes! I have an option on some Pontet as well. If your reporting proves accurate I certainly won't take it up. A few extra '05's instead? Only '09 so far is some Duhart Milon.

greybeard

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