1995 Monsanto Il Poggio Riserva


While rummaging around in the cellar I found two bottles of 1995 Monsanto Il Poggio RIserva Chianti and decided to open one with dinner. The wine was slightly brickish but I find that a lot of Chianti and Sangiovese have a brickish cast to them even when young. The nose was a bit tight and restrained with a bit of tobacco and a woody cedary note. On the palate the wine was a bit tired. The fruit was somewhat flat witha bit of sour cherry and a slight herbal note. THe tannins were very drying on the palate almost a dusty feel. OVerall not very charming and just drinkable. "C"
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> While rummaging around in the cellar I found two bottles of 1995 > Monsanto Il Poggio RIserva Chianti and decided to open one with > dinner. The wine was slightly brickish but I find that a lot of > Chianti and Sangiovese have a brickish cast to them even when young. > The nose was a bit tight and restrained with a bit of tobacco and a > woody cedary note. On the palate the wine was a bit tired. The fruit > was somewhat flat witha bit of sour cherry and a slight herbal note. > THe tannins were very drying on the palate almost a dusty feel. > OVerall not very charming and just drinkable. "C"
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I'm trying to understand a little more: The wine I'm linking to says that it is Cesari and Il Poggio 1995 Your bottles were Monsanto and Il Poggio 1995
If Cesari is a winery and Monsanto is a winery?
What is the Il Poggio referring to?
Thanks so much.
Dee Dee
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Dee Randall

Hello
Poggio means "hill, small hill, hillock". Since most Tuscany vineyards are on hills and slopes it is rather generic . It is not the name of a specific vineyard as far as I know. HTH
Cheers
Nils
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Nils Gustaf Lindgren
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Appellation: Chianti Classico DOCG Riserva Production zone: Localit=E0 Monsanto - Barberino Val d'Elsa (Florence) Grape mixture: Sangiovese, 90%; Canaiolo and Colorino, 10% Vineyard: Il Poggio (5.5 hectares) Soil composition: schistose marl consisting of petrified clay streaked with marly veins, rich in minerals Yield per hectare: 60-65 quintals (2.7-2.9 tons an acre) Vinification: in stainless steel at a controlled temperature with about 25 days of skin contact Maturation: 18 months in French-oak barriques new and used once before Bottle aging: 12 months First year of production: 1962 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C9CCE7.BA2B4780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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more:> The wine I'm linking to says that it is Cesari and Il = Poggio=20 1995> Your bottles were Monsanto and Il Poggio 1995> = Nils is=20 probably right about Il Poggio in general, but here is from the website = of=20 Castello di Monsanto on what they call "The first Chianti Classico cr=FB = .... made=20 only in the best years":   Appellation: Chianti = Classico DOCG=20 Riserva Production zone: = Localit=E0 Monsanto -=20 Barberino Val d=92Elsa (Florence) Grape mixture: Sangiovese, = 90%; Canaiolo=20 and Colorino, 10% Vineyard: Il Poggio (5.5=20 hectares) Soil composition: = schistose marl=20 consisting of petrified clay streaked with marly veins, = rich in=20 minerals Yield per hectare: 60-65 = quintals=20 (2.7-2.9 tons an acre) Vinification: in stainless = steel at a=20 controlled temperature with about 25 days of skin =
contact Maturation: 18 months in = French-oak=20 barriques new and used once = before Bottle aging: 12 = months First year of production:=20 1962
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"Dee Randall" skrev i melding news:gtn0bg$6t0$1@news.motzarella.org... > > What is the Il Poggio referring to? > Umberto Cesari Il Poggio seems to be a quite different animal... Here is some info: This is where Umberto Cesari has 130 acres of vineyards near the ancient Roman road leading from Milano to Rimini. Il Poggio is considered by many to produce some of the best wines of Emilia Romagna. They all come from Cesari family vineyards. Mr. Cesari is a thoroughly modern man with deep attachments to his beloved Emilia Romagna. He is also a big fan of Sangiovese and he believes in allowing the grape to express its distinctive personality in the wine. To achieve this, Mr. Cesari ferments the wine in stainless steel. He also carefully monitors the temperature during fermentation so it doesn't get too hot and destroy the lovely fruit aromas. The wine never touches oak either. That would only cover up the strawberry and cherry flavors, which would be a shame!
The Cesari wine is 14USD a bottle, the Monsanto about 50-60USD...
Anders
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> > "Dee Randall" skrev i melding > news:gtn0bg$6t0$1@news.motzarella.org... >> > >> What is the Il Poggio referring to? >> > Umberto Cesari Il Poggio seems to be a quite different animal... Here is > some info: > This is where Umberto Cesari has 130 acres of vineyards near the ancient > Roman road leading from Milano to Rimini. > Il Poggio is considered by many to produce some of the best wines of > Emilia Romagna. They all come from Cesari family vineyards. > Mr. Cesari is a thoroughly modern man with deep attachments to his beloved > Emilia Romagna. He is also a big fan of Sangiovese and he believes in > allowing the grape to express its distinctive personality in the wine. > To achieve this, Mr. Cesari ferments the wine in stainless steel. He also > carefully monitors the temperature during fermentation so it doesn't get > too hot and destroy the lovely fruit aromas. > The wine never touches oak either. That would only cover up the strawberry > and cherry flavors, which would be a shame! > > The Cesari wine is 14USD a bottle, the Monsanto about 50-60USD... > > Anders
Thanks for the post.
Monsanto? No way! "what's in a name?" I did try a Monsanto recently upon the advice of a 'wine salesman' 11-5-08 for $21 reg $27 Here it is and my comment:
Fattori Monsanto (or Montsanto) Chianti Classico Reserva DOCG 2005 90% sangiovese, canaiolo 7%, colorino 3%;
Bottled byFabrizio Bianchi
Horrible - Don't buy again.
Dee Dee
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Dee Randall
"Dee Randall" skrev i melding news:gtn7lp$a9l$1@news.motzarella.org... > . > > Monsanto? No way! "what's in a name?" > I did try a Monsanto recently upon the advice of a 'wine salesman' 11-5-08 > for $21 reg $27 > Here it is and my comment: > > Fattori Monsanto (or Montsanto) Chianti Classico Reserva DOCG 2005 > 90% sangiovese, canaiolo 7%, colorino 3%; > > Bottled byFabrizio Bianchi > > Horrible - Don't buy again. > Yes, but didn't we talk about the Monsanto Il Poggio? That is a 50USD wine... The ordinary Classico Reserva is 15-27USD according to wine-searcher.com Whether any is horrible, I don't know :-) Anders
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Anders Tørneskog
> While rummaging around in the cellar I found two bottles of 1995 > Monsanto Il Poggio RIserva Chianti and decided to open one with > dinner. =A0The wine was slightly brickish but I find that a lot of > Chianti and Sangiovese have a brickish cast to them even when young. > The nose was a bit tight and restrained with a bit of tobacco and a > woody cedary note. =A0On the palate the wine was a bit tired. =A0The frui= t > was somewhat flat witha bit of sour cherry and a slight herbal note. > THe tannins were very drying on the palate almost a dusty feel. > OVerall not very charming and just drinkable. "C"
Too bad. '95 CCRs can be quite nice (the Felsina Rancia is drinking nicely now). Overall, Monsanto isn't one of my favorite producers. Though the '78 Il Poggio was alive and kicking last year!
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DaleW

Regardless of the quality of Monsanto, poggio is a name found all over Italy in various combinations. I doubt that it has the same "cru" status as, for instance, Chambertin, or, for that matter, Cannubi (to keep on the right side of the border).
Cheers
Nils
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Nils Gustaf Lindgren
> Regardless of the quality of Monsanto, poggio is a name found all over It= aly > in various combinations. I doubt that it has the same "cru" status as, fo= r > instance, Chambertin, or, for that matter, Cannubi (to keep on the right > side of the border). > > Cheers > > Nils
Well, lots of famous vineyards don't have official status- I don't think Clos Ste Hune, Martha's Vineyard, etc do. I don't think Austrian (Singerriedel) vineyards have any official classification. Many others. But I do think that Monsanto's "Il Poggio" is a single monopole vineyard, and have never seen that on another Chianti label. But you're right Poggio is common, one of the reasons I have trouble remembering Brunellos. :)
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DaleW
> "Bi!!" wrote in message > > news:5b99cc69-5ff6-4444-ba4f-ddbdbba86544@l28g2000vba.googlegroups.com... > > > While rummaging around in the cellar I found two bottles of 1995 > > Monsanto Il Poggio RIserva Chianti and decided to open one with > > dinner. =EF=BF=BDThe wine was slightly brickish but I find that a lot o= f > > Chianti and Sangiovese have a brickish cast to them even when young. > > The nose was a bit tight and restrained with a bit of tobacco and a > > woody cedary note. =EF=BF=BDOn the palate the wine was a bit tired. =EF= =BF=BDThe fruit > > was somewhat flat witha bit of sour cherry and a slight herbal note. > > THe tannins were very drying on the palate almost a dusty feel. > > OVerall not very charming and just drinkable. "C" > >
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... > > I'm trying to understand a little more: > The wine I'm linking to says that it is Cesari and Il Poggio 1995 > Your bottles were Monsanto and Il Poggio 1995 > > If Cesari is a winery > and > Monsanto is a winery? > > What is the Il Poggio referring to? > > Thanks so much. > > Dee Dee
Everybody seems to have answered your question so I'll leave it at Monsanto Il Poggio (the hilltop) is Monsanto's top wine only bottled in "good" years. he picture on the label kind of explain it.This bottle was a bit tired, still drinkable but not at top form. When it was young it was quite tasty but still only a "B+" IIRC. Thanks Anders for the reference from the Monsanto website.
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