Calling amateur Freuds

Sometimes our hobby gets the better of us. During hour 5 of yet another riveting performance of Das Rheingold, does your attention wander from the finer points of Wagnerian vibrato? Does Olympic heroism make you think only of libation? Instead of giving your country's president (or other monarch) full heed, can you think only of which bottle to uncork with the traditional Borscht simmering on the stove? Does an uncompromised view of your steatopygous next door neighbor cause a rise only in your gorge, as you contemplate those California bottles that won't fit in your racks?

Face it, you're obsessed. But it gets worse. What to do when the fixation spills over into the Stygian realm? What should we do when we dream of wine?

The answer of course, is to call for interpretations from our very own support group, AFW! (Excepting Nils from comment, as I'm sure we'd rather get inferior help for free than have to shell out for a professional).

In this dream I am digging up bottles from the cellar of a house outside of NY that I lived in during the adolescent years. The cellar has lots of windows, with sunshine streaming in. (Must be why I buried the damn things). I find a cache of '83 Bordeaux, and put them upright on a table for later. Wait, what's this? An old, old Hermitage. So old it is only half full. So old that the red wine has turned clear. How sad. I resolve to drink it anyway. Now I'm bringing some new wine into the cellar. It's a sparkler from NY State, but it looks like it's in Miller Beer bottles! At least it's got crown caps! But the move has shaken the bottles, and the caps are leaking. Have I lost confidence in Stelvin? Wine under pressure is bubbling out. I'm convinced the bottles will be just fine, though.

Hmm, on second thought, any idiot can interpret this dream. What I need are the deep interpretations, plucked from the profound sub-conscious! (Of course, a less mundane dream would help matters too.)

Have at it, ye amateur Freuds. And remember: sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. And a popping champagne cork is...

-E

P.S. Of course, you could submit your own wine-obsessed dreams for analysis and other razzing.

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Emery Davis
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Emery Davis wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@address.com:

This is too easy Emery. You are currently obsessed with pssessions, you realize that you have too much but what to do?

The answer? Glad you asked, An open invitation to all AFW to help you "clear" up your problem of "over accumulation" of course if we are suscessful, Bill Spohn is the next likely candidate even without confessing to the dream! We all dream of Bill's cellar.

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jcoulter

] Emery Davis wrote in ] news: snipped-for-privacy@address.com: ] ] > ott ] ] This is too easy Emery. You are currently obsessed with pssessions, you ] realize that you have too much but what to do? ] ] The answer? Glad you asked, An open invitation to all AFW to help you ] "clear" up your problem of "over accumulation" of course if we are ] suscessful, Bill Spohn is the next likely candidate even without confessing ] to the dream! We all dream of Bill's cellar. ]

Note to hypnotist. Repeat this mantra: divest possessions, have drink with Josh. Divest possessions, have drink with Josh...

Anytime you want to come over and "help" with a bottle or three, you're welcome. But just don't put me in the same asylum with that crazy canuck! His wine obsession already dwarfs mine, (not to mention his cellar dwarfs mine), and that's not even talking about cars and rhododendrons.

-E

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Emery Davis

] ] ] Emery Davis wrote: ] [] ] >

] > Hmm, on second thought, any idiot can interpret this dream. ] ] And I have! :P~ ]

What I said! :)

] > What I need ] > are the deep interpretations, plucked from the profound sub-conscious! ] ] But what if your subconscious is not profound? Could it possibly be that your ] subconscious is in fact quite shallow and superficial? (A decades-long subscriber ] to "People, mayhap?) ]

A ha! I think you've put your finger on something. As a matter of fact, I've often been accused of having no conscience at all!

[] ] But, Ceci N'est Pas Un Pipe ]

Indeed.

[] ] > P.S. Of course, you could submit your own wine-obsessed dreams ] > for analysis and other razzing. ] ] Drat! I don't know that I've ever had a wine-obsessed dream. Something to ] strive for, I suppose!

Either a lightweight or keeping your undergarments, quite properly, hidden from public view.

-E

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Emery Davis

Actually (he said pedantically), I believe that should be "steatopygian"

And for your next lesson, compare and contrast "callipygian" with steatopygian.

And remember that neither are related to homing pygians.....

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Bill Spohn

Emery Davis wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@address.com:

Helping, love to but I keep missing. This next trip I will miss Ian by a few kilometers (Toulouse, Albi, and then to as yet unknown locations in the Dordogne and Bordeaux areas) Normandy (this is you isn't it?) well it just keeps being put off.

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jcoulter

] >Brilliant use of "steatopygous", Emery! ] ] Actually (he said pedantically), I believe that should be "steatopygian"

Webster's Unabridged disagrees, giving steatopygic and steatopygous as the adjectival forms.

] ] And for your next lesson, compare and contrast "callipygian" with steatopygian. ]

I actually looked up steatopygous in MS bookshelf to verify the spelling. To their credit it is listed, but sadly callipygian is given a synonym. All a matter of taste I suppose, but personally I find a callipygian bottle fits well in my wine rack (dragging kicking and screaming on topic). Steatopygous has a much more vulgar feel to it, hence my use. (Learned this word as a youth from EE "Doc" Smith, as it happens.)

Perhaps steatopygian can be found in Canadian or other dictionaries, but I've never seen it. Do you have a source?

-E

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Emery Davis

"> Perhaps steatopygian can be found in Canadian or other dictionaries, but I've

Is the weather bad over there, or are you lot just bored.

Does your steatopygian neighbour erucatate or is he struck by steatorrhea. Where does the stoichometry of wine and water lead.? A Welsh steatopygian could be called a mochyn, and if he was a penny short of a shilling, due to a chemopallidothalamectomy, he would be a mochyn twp.

But then he may have cerumen in the lumen, which would give a bad case of the strange feelings or fantods..

OT, UK only, Tescos has Carpentier fizz at 12.99 down from 19, and a stunning 2000 village Montagny at 5.50 from 10.99. Bought afew cases of both y'day.

Now the dog wants to drag me to the pub for some Old Hooky.......a much better idea than these word games.

From a wet Midlands on a bank holiday weekend...........yes I am bored.

JT

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John Taverner

Well what can one expect, using a colonial source...;-)

I hauled out the 'Big Dic', which at home happens to be the Miriam Webster 20th Century version, all 2000 odd pages, and it concurs with your smaller one (bloody ex-colonials stick together). Don't subscribe to the online OED, but perhaps someone else does and can shed light on this important question!

Hauled out the 11th edition Brittanica (last one woth anything) and after getting sidetracked for 10 minutes on an article on Star Chamber, found that it just discusses the condition of steatopygia.

Won't be able to sleep until I find the truth.......

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Bill Spohn

Mark Lipton:

(TELL me about it. :-P )

As I recall the following, one of the Habsburg monarchs, in a position to influence classical music at the time -- Maria Theresia I think -- decreed that no opera should exceed 90 minutes. This demonstrates how, in the right circumstances, monarchy can do great things for the human condition.

(Not a common observation in the US, by the way, partly because of bad early experience with distant monarchs who owned large portions of the continent. For example, reportedly New Orleans passed from one European colonial power to another after someone in Europe lost it in a card game.)

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Max Hauser

LOL!! IIRC, Maria Theresa was a famous patron of music, but also notorious for her poor judgement: she shunned Mozart, Bach, Handel and Haydn in favor of lesser composers from Italy. In fact, some of Mozart's misery has been attributed to her lack of financial support. My mother, however, would welcome such monarchial decrees today.

Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton
[] ] ] Helping, love to but I keep missing. This next trip I will miss Ian by a ] few kilometers (Toulouse, Albi, and then to as yet unknown locations in the ] Dordogne and Bordeaux areas) Normandy (this is you isn't it?) well it just ] keeps being put off. ]

Yes, Normandy indeed. Well, maybe next time.

Since I see in a later thread you're heading to Cahors, maybe I can share a few of my faves. Hope I'm not too late! A couple of great cheapies are:

Domaine des Gravalous

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They make a lovely traditional (no oak) bottle, silky, ages well, amazing QPR.

Chateau les Ifs S. BURI et Fils

46220 PESCADOIRES Sorry, don't have a #.

Also incredible QPR. A little more structured and lean than the previous.

On the pricier side, but still cheap by US standards:

Ch. du Cedre

46700 VIRE S LOT tel 05.65.36.53.87

Ch. St Didier Parnac

46140 PARNAC tel 05.65.30.70.10

Ch. Triguedina

46700 PUY-L'EVEQUE te 05.65.21.30.81
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Emery Davis

] ] "> Perhaps steatopygian can be found in Canadian or other dictionaries, but ] I've ] > never seen it. Do you have a source? ] >

] ] Is the weather bad over there, or are you lot just bored. ] []

Yes, it was wet here too. Obviously bored, look what I bothered to type out! :)

Ter yer 'ealth. And well eructed, of course.

-E

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Emery Davis

Emery Davis wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@address.com:

This one I believe is exported to the US

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jcoulter

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