Chateauneuf du Pape 1998

What this sentence?

M.

] "MaxMustermann" wrote: ] ] > What do you guys about the above? ] ] What this sentence? ]

He's outdone you Michael. You missed only one word (is) whereas he's swallowed two: 'do' and 'think' I assume.

As an anglophone living in France I stand as always in awe of your (meant widely) excellent command of written English.

Max. '98 is widely regarded as an excellent vintage in CdP. The year was hot but clement enough for a large production. The young wines sometimes reminded me of '90 when they were young, with perhaps even more forward fruit. To my tastes '90 was better but perhaps marginally so, neither year holding so much promise as the marvelous '89.

Even in a good year quality of course varies by producer. If you have some specific domains in mind I'm sure we'll be glad to offer advice (if we have any.)

Many of the more imposing '98 CdPs will be in deep delta wave sleep around now, in my view needing around 5 years to wake up speaking in generalities. Of course this is not uniformly true, and only tasting will tell the tale. We drank a pleasant Roger Perrin from the vintage recently, several hours of air was enough to get it to roll over and sit up.

-E

If my count is right, he only swallowed one: "think". The "do" is there.

Thank you very much!

And again that's the evidence that my command of the English language is nowhere where I would like to have it. I saw the posting as a question to the quality of a specific wine - which is impossible to answer given that Max stated no producer.

Btw, "Max Mustermann" ist the dummy name for credit, bank and customer card ads in Austria.

M.

Mi e' parso che Michael Pronay abbia scritto:

LOL, in Italy we have "Mario Rossi", and an uncle of mine has that exact name and surname :)

JFTMOR, our new electronic medicare card (where Max Mustermann even holds a doctor's degree):

Btw, "Max Mustermann" is also used in Germany.

Am I right that it's "John Doe" in the US? How about UK?

M.

] Emery Davis wrote: ] ] > ] "MaxMustermann" wrote: ] > ] ] > ] > What do you guys about the above? ] > ] ] > ] What this sentence? ] ] > He's outdone you Michael. You missed only one word (is) ] > whereas he's swallowed two: 'do' and 'think' I assume. ] ] If my count is right, he only swallowed one: "think". The "do" is ] there.

Right you are!

] ] > As an anglophone living in France I stand as always in awe of ] > your (meant widely) excellent command of written English. ] ] Thank you very much! ] ] > Max. '98 is widely regarded as an excellent vintage in CdP. ] >

] > [further explanations to the vintage snipped] ] ] And again that's the evidence that my command of the English ] language is nowhere where I would like to have it. I saw the ] posting as a question to the quality of a specific wine - which ] is impossible to answer given that Max stated no producer. ]

Maybe, but you write practically flawlessly. I only wish my written French was as good. Speaking I do well enough with, at least! :)

] Btw, "Max Mustermann" ist the dummy name for credit, bank and ] customer card ads in Austria. ]

Ah ha. There's a Max Mustermann posting on rec.gardens also. I had assumed it was the same, but maybe not.

Yes in american it is John Doe. The Brits version I can't quite think of just now. John Blood? Doesn't quite ring true.

-E

Dunno about the UK, but in the Dominican Republic is's Fulano de Tal.

Jose

How about John Bull?

Actually, in America John Doe isn't much used in credit card ads anymore. It has become very common to "rent" the names of celebrities instead - and not just movie stars. I've seen sports figures, politicians, astronauts, writers etc.

Just a question to drag this back on topic a bit: What sort of vintage is 2003 for CdP? I see that Costco has Vieux Telegraphe on the shelf for $37US, which looks like a good price for one of my favorite red wines.

BTW, what does "La Crau" translate to in English? TIA.

Tom S

That sounds good to me! :)

] Actually, in America John Doe isn't much used in credit card ads anymore. ] It has become very common to "rent" the names of celebrities instead - and ] not just movie stars. I've seen sports figures, politicians, astronauts, ] writers etc. ] ] Just a question to drag this back on topic a bit: ] What sort of vintage is 2003 for CdP? I see that Costco has Vieux ] Telegraphe on the shelf for $37US, which looks like a good price for one of ] my favorite red wines. ]

I think there will be some excellent '03s. As usual with this bizarre summer an expert hand is required. I haven't gone tasting yet so I can't comment in particular, but I'm betting the V.T. will be a classic big boned CdP young. Whether there is sufficient acidity for the long term, maybe you can try a bottle and let us know! :)

] BTW, what does "La Crau" translate to in English? TIA. ]

La Crau is a commune in the Var, which presumably doesn't apply. However it is also used to describe the (formerly) desert region formed by the river Durance delta as it joins the Rhone. That at least puts you in the right area, so I'm guessing the vineyard is located in this rocky flatland. (Larousse is great for this kind of minutia!)

-E

John Smith

In France, M. Dupont.

I use ta call on all dose guys....now dey zoloft in every ting. I hoid zoloft goes good with Pord but arou here de only "Pord" youse can buy iz Gallos. I've been invited to one dese Expo things--dey wan to do a riff on what da French kings and odders ate with Antoinets cake, Whoops got to goooooo.

J. Murray Fefferman World oldest cork-dork

astronauts,

That's a good price, alright. I think it's less that what I paid Premier Cru at their pre-arrival price. I saw it on the shelf at Whole Foods in Seattle a couple days ago for $43, which is still below the $46-$55 I saw for the 2000 and 2001. (What did rather shock me was seeing Vieux Donjon on the Whole Foods shelf at $54. The 1998 sold at $25.)

So was this the Richmond Costco?

JJ

No. Burbank.

Tom S

I've generally been steering clear of the '03s, but mostly out of prejudice: I'm wary of overripe flavors and am still saturated with the '98-'01s ;-)

La Crau is the name of the plateau that runs between Chateauneuf and Bedarrides. It's home to some of the largest galets in the region and is generally considered to be the prime terroir of the region. But you knew all that, didn't you?

Mark Lipton (Just returned from India, Singapore and SF)