Le Pin vertical - Suspicions confirmed


From the dreaded Wine Spectator -
The Wine: 1992 Ch. Le Pin Pomerol
The score: 77
The judgement: "Light, herbal and fading. This should never have been bottled."
The Price: US$ 411.00
I think that says it all...
Reply to
Ronin

Are you saying this wine received a WS rating of just 77 points? Some vendors are still listing this wine at $1400/bottle.
Reply to
Professor

One observation - just to be a contrarian ...
we (the curmudgeons who post on internet wine forums and rant about the Wine Dictator) can't have it both ways; declaring the WS to be mis-informed and self-serving, while at the same time using them as a reference for the unworthiness of any given wine.
Just to play devil's advocate (along the lines of the usual characterizations of WS) - maybe the wine is fine, but refused to pay homage to Suckling or whomever. Result - a shocking rating intended to punish the infidel winery.
I know - unlikely - but heck, it really is kinda two-faced of anyone on this forum to hold up a WS rating as evidence of a wine's unworthiness, when we refuse to accept their vouchsafing any wine's worthiness, isn't it?
Reply to
AxisOfBeagles

Well, I don't take their word as LAW, but I also don't think they are 23 points off on any one wine, either. This vertical they are reporting on has 26 vintages, with a 100, a 99, 16 others judged in the 90's and the rest in the 80's except for the 91 given a 79 score. My point, I guess, is that if they say that it shouldn't have been bottled, I would trust that enough not to pay over $400 for a bottle.
The suspicions confirmed is that the price is a function of label, rather than content. I think UC (another dreaded entity :-) would love this...
Jim
Reply to
Ronin

Excellent point. We can't discount their scores, then use for an example when it pleases us. I think the WS score on 2001 Montelena was 68 points, that one is considered whacky by most people. Just like many people consider Parker's 99 for a Carnival of Love whacky.
Also, that $1400 price is from 20/20, not a store with realistic prices.
In any case, Le Pin is all about scarcity and prestige. Better vintages can go for $4K and up. Prices are always many times more than many similarly scored wines.
Reply to
DaleW

On a less conspiratorial note, perhaps the wine just doesn't fit Suckling's preferred taste profile, which actually wouldn't surprise me a bit. Given JS's preference for the more "Californicated" Bdx, a '92 might have been too lean for his palate, but just right for mine. Of course, I've long since dismissed JS as having an unreliable palate for a critic, so trying to parse his scores with any eye to logic or consistency is a fool's game IMO.
Mark Lipton
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Mark Lipton

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