M. Pronay, what am I drinking?

Here is what I found on Google:

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"Vineyards of Pannonia" is based in the renown Lake Neusiedl wine region of Austria and derives its name from the ancient Roman province of "Pannonia" founded by emperor Augustus in 9 B.C.

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The page with the above had a link to

The Lake Neusiedl region produces a wide varitey of various qualities of wine including very sweet ones. It sounds as if the one you have is a brand name. Pannoia also is the brand name for a decanter. Perhaps M. Pronay can tell you more when he is up and about. It is late night still in Austria as I write.

Dale Williams wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m23.aol.com:

Hi Dale!

I have never heard of that producer. But as Cwdjrx_ wrote, the wine should come from Burgenland, probably from the Neusiedlersee area.

There is a group of vintners that created the brand "Pannonische Weingärtner Neusiedlersee". This sounds quite similar to Vineyards of Pannonia.

But based on your tasting note it doesn't seem to justify a lot of effort to find out what's up with that winery.

Regards, Robert

Redundant passibly, but "Audlese trocken" is the key. Sugar content of the must had to be a minimum of 21 °KMW (= ^Babo) or

As to the procuder: I have absolutely no idea. There has never been a bottling under this name in Austria. It's an export label, but I have no idea who's behind. It's most certainly comes from norther Burgenland, probably from the wine growing region Neusiedlersee. It might be a cooperative or négociant bottling.

Maybe you could take a very close look at the label and copy anything you might find. I might be able to retrieve the producer from the Staaliche Prüfnummer, although I cannot guarantee.

Anyhow, even Robert's suggestion that they might be the "Pannonische Weingärten Neusiedlersee" ("Pannonic Vineyards Neusiedlersee") may be right or wrong, but on their website they don't give a single name of someone responsable - which normally would make ring my alarm bells.

M.

Hmm, under a distributor sticker I found a little more: must wt. 22.5 Brix, RS 6.4 g/l Alcohol 14.6%, Acidity 5.5 g/l Pannonia.com, blessed gardens of Pannonia, Lake Neusiedl From what Michael said, 22.5 wouldn't be Auslese. But , also, 22.5 couldn't make 14.6% abv even if totally dry, would it?

I'm even more confsed. Doesn't really matter, I'm not buying more! Dale

Dale Williams Drop "damnspam" to reply

pannonia.com seems to have gone out of (internet) business.

No Prüfnummer available? Maybe hidden as a lot number?

M.

snipped-for-privacy@aol.comdamnspam (Dale Williams) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m23.aol.com:

Try this:

No, no numbers on bottle at all. I'll chalk this one up to (slightly confused) experience, not a wine I'm eager to revisit. Dale

Dale Williams Drop "damnspam" to reply

That's 100 percent illegal, of course (although rather sloppy than knowingly misleading). I wouldn't touch any bottle from this producer.

M.

Hi all! I don't know them either, but there is also a collective of 8 wineries who call themselves the Pannobile group:

Probably a day late and a dollar short, but I've been out of town. e. winemonger

"Pannobile" has absolutely *nothing* to do with "Pannonische Weingärtner" - sorry.

M.

Yes. I actually did understand that and was wrong anyhow, but thanks for clarifying. I just thought it might be interesting to note another group of winemakers or wines that cite the Pannonnian regional climate in some way: be it the name of their winery, their collective, whatever. I was in error. -sorry. However, if you don't mind once more veering into the realm of all things related or COMPLETELY unrelated (as I am wont to do) to words that sounds like they have the root Pannoni...., it raises a question that perhaps you can answer: do you know why or for exactly what purpose Riedel sells a decanter called the "Pannonia"? That is, outside of its primary purpose of decanting wine of course.

e.winemonger

For those who don't know it:

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Sorry, no. I guess it has to do with the fact that Pannonia was a Roman province, and the the design of the decanter allures to a Roman amphora.

Ciò che ha detto winemonger ( snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net) è così interessante, che devo dire la mia:

And what about your Piedmont-Campania trip? Luk

Sounds good to me! Thanks.

Amazing. Absolutely amazing. Private tasting with Angelo Gaja, delightful afternoon with Antonio Caggiano, epic degustation at Marchesi di Barolo.... I'll start a new thread with the whole tale as soon as I have just a bit of time to write it all up! Things are really crazy with the impending launch of winemonger.com Thanks! e. winemonger