Wine in Venice

Venice, Florida?

Venice, Italy?

Venice, California?

Other?

Dimitri

snipped-for-privacy@soda.csua.berkeley.edu (D. Gerasimatos) wrote in news:blidtb$ta7$ snipped-for-privacy@agate.berkeley.edu:

Sorry, Venezia, Italia

Mmm, granted I am not objective, Venezia being my city, but it seems to me that if someone does not specify, Venice is in Italy, just as Berlin is in Germany and London in England... ;-)))

The only place to buy wine in Venice, if you ask me, is Vino e... Vini, at Castello 3299, you can call them at 0415210184, they are not far from San MArco, on the Fondamenta dei Furlani, near the Scuola di San Giorgio degli Schiavoni (worth seeing BTW). In the evening they organize tastings. The guy that runs it is very good.

Mike

No, you aren't objective. I typed "Venice" into Google. Of the first

10 hits, 6 referenced the city in Italy, 2 referenced the city in Florida, and 2 referenced the city in California.

Typing in "Venice wine" gave me 8 in Italy and 2 in Florida. Both Venice, FL and Venice, CA are destinations unlike, say, Paris, TX. Being in Italy perhaps you do not realize that.

Dimitri

And what happened to Illinois? Seems like Google missed a few...

Hi Dimitri

I know it is not nice to call little places "little" or fat people "fat", I apologize for the typically european arrogance of my reply, apologies to the the mayors of Venice FL and CA, and Illinois too, I did not intend to start some kind of spanish inquisition, any belittling of the importance of their respective puny villages (sorry, cities) in history and world affairs was absolutely unintentional. My assuming that Venice meant Venice Italy is inexcusable, in the future I shall look up Google and check if there can be any confusion between the first place that comes to my small enfeebled mind and some godforsaken shithole (sorry, there I go again, I meant remote quaint community) located in, gosh, another continent for Pete's sake!

But, if I may abuse of your patience for a few seconds more, please let me ask you a question or two.

When you read something about the Roman Empire, do you need to be told Rome-Italy just in case there was any doubt that it might have been Rome, NY that invaded Gaul, or that Rome, GA had developed a brave squad of Rubicon-crossers?

When you read about the Queen in London, do you need to know that it is London, England or might you doubt that Buckingham palace could have moved to Ontario or Kentucky or Ohio?

When you read about Paris being a fashion center, do you need to have it specified as Paris France, or is any one of the 6 US cities so named seeing a large influx of strange clothes and anoretic women?

And just what is wrong with Paris TX, why is it not a destination but Venice FL is?

I guess Google hits are what defines objectivity today...

;-)))))

Mike

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No, just a general knowledge of geography and awareness of the world around you. Isn't that what Americans are always accused of lacking? Unlike your other examples (e.g. Rome) there are other cities named Venice that are indeed travel destinations. While I can recommend a wine shop in Venice, CA I am not so knowledgeable about wine shops in Venice, FL (or Venice, Italy). Hence, I asked for a clarification.

Next someone is going to ask about wine shops in Valencia or in Orange County.

Dimitri

Salut/Hi D. Gerasimatos,

le/on Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:12:50 +0000 (UTC), tu disais/you said:-

That proves Mike's point, it seems to me. And even for an American, comparing Venice FL with the city of the Doges and scene of Monteverdi's greatest hour is going a touch far.

He isn't, his origins are there, but he's lived in Canada, and currently lives in Southern France. A better qualification for a balanced world view than many, it seems to me.

Mike Tommasi wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Thank you Mike. I was hoping to avoid the major international incident that I seemingly have caused, but things happen.

Hope Mike's merchant is helpful.

While it does behoove us all to remember this is an international group, I don't think anyone seriously was confused about which Venice was being referred to. Or maybe they were, in which case maybe producers should start putting on "The Merchant of Venice (the one in Italy"), and whoever has the rights to Thomas Mann's estate should have the book covers read "Death in Venice, Italy"

BTW, is Venice CA really a destination? Even a friend whose son lived in Venice CA would say she was going to LA to visit him.

In any case, I'd just like to state for the record that if I forget to add NY, when I say Manhattan that's the one I'm referring to, not the one in Kansas.

Dale

Dale Williams Drop "damnspam" to reply

What about Venice Florida. It is a destination......not for wine however.

Not at all that simple. Google operates its search engines with regard for the country of origin of the query, hence there are multiple Googles:

etcetera. If you request information on "Venice" from Google Italy you will get different results from the same request in Google France, and so forth. As you are in the US you connect to Google USA. Being in the US perhaps you do not realize that.

pavane

Burton Anderson in the 2002 edition of the Wines of Italy recommends Al Volto in Italy's Venice. I last visited there in 1985 and don't recall much, except it was dingy...........I much prefer the shops of Verona, Italy not New Jersey.

However, Usenet is international. My point in using Google was only to show that in some countries/regions at least, it is not at all clear that Venice is necessarily the city in Italy. It is not unreasonable at all to ask for clarification.

Dimitri

I'd like to say that when I refer to Portland I mean OREGON and not MAINE. However, I am sure you more often mean Maine. No?

From a post of yours:

"I had almost purchased the 1998 of this in Portland (where every store seemed to carry)..."

Do you see why this is petty?

Dimitri

It was, however, quite superfluous in this specific case, since both the original poster and those who actually provided an answer to the OP's question didn't need any clarification: All three were well aware about Venice, without any need of extra clarification.

M.

Sorry about that, I guess I assumed since I made that post the day after a thread entitled "TN: Wines in Maine" folks would guess. It looks like the rest of the times I've mentioned Portland ME , I apologize for this error!

Dale

Dale Williams Drop "damnspam" to reply

I also buy at this enoteca. The selection is excellent, but I think the prices in Bologna, which is the other place I frequently visit, are much better.

How nice of you to speak for the entire audience of this newsgroup and decide whether they needed clarification or not.

Dimitri

The fact that you choose to be clear in your differentiation of Portland, ME from Portland, OR is appreciated. You apparently wish to avoid confusion. So why is it such an issue to ask someone else to be as clear?

Was it really necessary for a dozen people to show indignation that I would ask? What would the peanut gallery have said if this guy really

*had* meant Venice, FL?

Which country do you think everythingvenice.com is inviting you to tour? Apparently everyone on this group would guess Italy. Would that be correct?

I am dismayed at the arrogance displayed here, but I guess that is to be expected in a wine newsgroup.

Here is an interesting question:

Where is the largest city named Newcastle in the world?

a. USA b. South Africa c. Australia d. England

Dimitri