Need for large amount of information

Good Evening to Everybody, I feel the almagnac. I am a Post graduate Hospitality Management student, with a fairly well low amount of information on wines, their processes, regional exquisites, their specialities and much more which I would like to gather from here. I encourage all the members enthusiasts and everybody on this group to help me in my endeavor of spreading wings of my knowledge in this fairly seemless scope of knowledge. I thank you for your considerate attempt and your precious time you spared in your commitment to help me Succeed

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skhndkr
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I would suggest that you go to a local wine store and hook up with a local tasting group. Nothing can replace the practical knowledge gained by actually drinking, comparing and purchasing wines. I would begin by checking out the FAQ .

Reply to
Bi!!

I hope your English continues to improve.

The best way to learn about wines is to learn the food and wine cultures of the countries from which they come. What nationality are you?

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UC

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Richard Neidich

I have a feeling he's not, probably from India or Pakistan.

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UC

Looks like the OP is from Mumbay.

Reply to
Vilco

No Punjabi?

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UC

Welcome. I hope you will find, by and large, a considerate group here.

I understand it is difficult to purchase non-Indian wines other than on the underground market, if you are indeed posting from India. I'm sure it will be challenging to learn about this fascinating subject there.

If you can refine some of your questions and do some basic reading, I feel sure our community will try to help.

Good luck!

-E

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Emery Davis

Sounds a bit like---"Tell me all you know so I can replace you." I watched a Master in Marketing approach a store's wine manager and have him tell all he knew about wine and the wine biz, the geek introduced Mr Marketing to people in the industry, got him invited to trade tastings. Finally the MM approached a small distributor for a job. He drained all his fellow salespeople for info on customer and then applied for and got a job as his mentors boss---now he works for a big conglomerate in mid mgt---my buddy, his mentor still has the same job---

My lesson was to never be a mentor on the wine business unless I get paid for the lessons! Teaching people about wine is all that I'll do.......

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Joe "Beppe"Rosenberg

in article zI-dnS6-RuuS-q7bnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com, Joe "Beppe"Rosenberg at snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net wrote on 4/28/07 8:22 AM:

Amen to that, Brother!!!!!

The first four months my new wine shop was open a 'very nice' young guy worked for me part-time and soaked up everything he could about "the biz". His story was that he had sold some property and was taking a 'sabbatical' of sorts to be with his family more. Guess what?

One day he announces that he has been licensed to operated an online wine retail business. His site began with 75% of the same wines as in my shop and a chunk of my store's e-mail list as well.

When I was doing the research for my business only one in 10 shop owners would even give me the time of day on anything substantive. At the time I knew why, but only intellectually. A year later I've become almost totally closed-mouthed about what I've learned.

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Midlife

Hey, where is your shop?

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Richard Neidich

in article rxLYh.1760$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net, Richard Neidich at snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net wrote on 4/28/07 10:31 AM:

The shop is in Southern California, possibly the single most competitive wine market in the US. I've occasionally alluded to being in the business here, but I've always understood that it was not proper newsgroup etiquette to disclose the specifics of such a business connection (as that would be construed to be a commercial posting). A year or so ago there was regular poster here who owned a wine ship, in Missouri, I think. He would occasionally relate his experiences as a retailer, but it took a personal 'off-line' e-mail for me to learn the specifics of where the shop was.

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Midlife

I got into the business side of wine by accident. I had a tasting group and did wine classes for the Learning Experience. I shopped aka haunted a number of shops in Baltimore & DC, so I began getting invites to trade tastings. One or two of my former friends(they drank lots of my wine) in the biz usually objected to any civilian being present, me included, nonetheless if a retailer wants you there there's usually no objection.

I was not a large volume buyer---purchasing 3 bottles of wines Iiked, but almost every Friday night, I would be in downtown Parkton, Md tasting wines with a few other acolytes.

I was at a tasting run by Bobby Kacher, who I'd met at Continental Liquors and the back of the Tilch's store and spent a evening tasting Leo Fox's portfolio with Mike & Bobby. In my more sober moments I saw Kacher, Barry Green, Quality Brands Wine Manager and Neal Cohen of Milford Liquors talking and looking right at me. Soon Neal came over and offered my a job as the weekend wine guy.

A few of my former friends ITB never forgave me because I was working for someone else. Naturally I acquired a small following especially for California & Italian wines. I also worked with other stores to convince reluctant wholesalers to get some decent vintages in stock. Working with the importers rep if I could get 14 cases sold in Maryland--the importers wholesaler's would bring the wine in.

Although, some of former buds participated in these informal consortiums, I still betrayed their trust. I was about a year into retail when I was summoned to meet and lunch with MW Joel Butler in Parkton. Joel represented an Italo-American exporter, Marc De Grazia and was seeking help in opening up the DC & Maryland markets. After tasting the wines, I suggested Butler visit Tom Hanna at A&A Liquors in DC and went hunting for Marc's half brother Iano who worked with the East Coast importer. Eventually the MD wholesaler handling the DeGrazia wines made me an offer and I moved on..............

Eventually the brothers DEG wanted to change wholesalers in MD and the best of the small wholesale shops was approached. One of my former friends and the guy who had me chased from trade tastings, was # 2 guy at this wholesaler & veto'd the move because I was not a professional, had a full time gig and was taking sales money away from real salespeople.

We moved on at another wholesaler who needed a wine manager and so I was competing with all the bozo's who turned me & the DEGs down. I kept note of how many facings my wholesaler had in Italian wines in a shop---in 8 of the top 10 Md wine accounts the Bep ruled especially over Mr. Pro's products. I never really went beyond the top 25 accounts myself or restaurants but it was a great ride.

Oh yeah, just before I left the biz, I visited a shopped owned by Mr. Pro with a guy from New Zealand. Mr Pro was very resistant so I whispered in the reps ear, "Insult me and you'll get a sale". Sure enough the rep shouted "stop yammering at me" and Mr Pro ordered 2 cases riesling and a chard.

By the time we visited another shop, word was out that I was dressed down by the NZ rep. I guess what I did to make the sale wasn't very professional...........

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joe beppe

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