Paso Quake -- update

As was posted by a number of well wishers, thanks for your kind words.

My wife, who just survived where 2 others got killed, is doing well.

The big news is the wide spread distruction at various wineries.

I had looked at many wineries and noted the high stacks of wine barrels. My opinion, which I kept to myself, was that there would be big problems in case of a earthquake. However, the last major quake in this area occured roughly 150 years ago and the assessment that it was roughly a 6.

In my old age, I felt that it wouldn't have gone over too well -- simply that most would have said that nothing could be done about it. Well, the impact perhaps could be mitigated, but not eliminated. So, I just kept my mouth shut.

I went out to Stephan Asseo's winery, to whom I sell my grapes. Stephan is presently in France, due to return on saturday (12/27). There was a nice jumble of barrels, smashed bottles of wine and the big fermentation tanks which had been move roughly 1 foot -- even though they had 3,000 gallons of juice in them. My understanding is that the wine in the tanks are spoiled because when the tanks moved, the cooling lines (for fermentation temperature control) ruptured, putting gycol into the juice.

I spoke to Dave Debusk, who is Stephan's assistant. Turns out that he had just stepped out of the winery when the quake occured. There is no doubt in my mind that he would have either been killed or crippled when the barrels come tumbling down, if he was in the storage room.

My opinion is that SLO county needs to address building code to provide barrel tie-down points to at least minimize what occcured. But that will not happen overnight, let alone arguments that another like quake wouldn't be seen in another 100 years (cynic I am).

I hape that you had a nice wine imbibing Christmas. We in Paso will recover and will do our best to provide top quality wine to you.

As an after thought:

I got up in the middle of the night (12/25 am), went to the toilet, went back to bed and then felt an after shock. The AP says that it was a 4.4, from roughly 10 miles west south west of Paso, roughly 30 miles from the original quake epicenter. This location is interesting because it is in the area of Atascadero, where I was went the original quake occured. In my previous posting on this topic, I noted that it felt as though that Atascadero was at the epicenter. Perhaps my gut feel about the force I felt in Atascadero does have some basis of reality.

As the USGS states, that after shocks as high as 5 can be expected for the next few days. Hopefully, there isn't more winery damage. Except for the possiblilty of underground irrigation pipe damage, there isn't much to damage in my vineyard - however, tomorrow I will check out my well depth (I should have done it sooner). Wind and vine loading on the trellis is compariable to the quake shaking. I will only be able to check out the underground plumbing once I turn on the irrigation come this spring.

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Thanks very much for the update. I visit Paso 2-3 times a year and have gotten to know a few of the winemakers around the area. I was afraid that Stephan's place would have some damage, since so many others on the Westside are reporting losses. I haven't heard anything yet from Matt Trevisan at Linne Calodo, but he had barrels stacked 5 high so I'm worried that he might have lost a lot. I saw photos from Turley that look pretty bad. Even Justin Smith at Saxum reported tumbled barrels and he only had them stacked 2 high. Fortunately he didn't lose much wine. The main thing at all the wineries is that everyone is ok.

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When I toured the local wineries in Paso I once asked if the barrels were strapped in any way as a precaution against quakes. I was surprised to hear that they were not. At my work even small electronic devices are required to be strapped with velcro if they are placed on shelves taller than 5' or so. Straps won't prevent all damage, but they are better than nothing and would be quite cheap to implement.

Dimitri

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Jim

I think the answer to "why should they be" is rather obvious.

Perhaps they shouldn't be stacked so high in the first place then. I realize you are saying that there are costs involved, whether to strap or to buy more floor space. The question is then if the risks are worth the costs.

Well, I don't work at a state university so I really don't know what their requirements are. I realize that business will get away with whatever it can, and that includes poisoning the environment and taking advantage of workers in 3rd world countries. In this case, some businesses were hurt by their lack of foresight and people were hurt as well. It costs more to do business in California and earthquake safety is one reason why. Shall we just forego it entirely in the name of operating margins?

Perhaps it is time to design a better way to rack and/or secure barrels. I am sure an industrious engineer is already thinking about the problem.

Dimitri

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sure an industrious engineer is already thinking about the problem.<

The solutions exist. The parameters are simple. Each barrel is x big divided by x available storage area (floor x elevation). The issue is $$$, plain and simple. Whether up front, or in increased labor, it's all $$$. Period.

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You're right about that - here's a website with some seismic restraint devices for barrel stacks:

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Very interesting. A two part system of elements that work by increasing the brow of the barrel cradle w/snap on clips and adding (screw attached) locator blocking to the drum face, they've addressed the X + Y swaying axes and dramatically reduced the fall over potential of multi barrel storage.

While they offer no guarantees (that I could find) it appears to be a workable add on for a limited investment. Fork lift drivers will require more training and time to load and rack, but it may be negligible in the long run.

The "third" part of their system relies on strapping, though they don't appear to furnish those. Odd.....

Makes you wonder though, why someone long ago didn't manufacture a cradle with more restrained diameter in the first place. But I suppose w/o a barrel standardization, the present form was certainly more universal and user friendly.

Always here for my fellow syngraphist or oenophile.

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Here's the latest thing in barrel racks. They're about the same price (~$125 US) as the standard racks in stainless steel:

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I particularly like the fact that the barrels themselves do not support the weight of other barrels. These would also be a lot easier to forklift. It makes me **very** nervous to stack full barrels five high!

Tom S

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