Shira-z from South Africa

Not sure what you mean.

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France email link

What I mean is that Shiraz is the Syrah grape in South Africa. Was brought there by the Huguenots somewhere around 1700. Was called Shiraz then, and is now.

At a later date, the Australians got their original Syrah/Shiraz cuttings from SA, so they named them what they were where they got them, which was Shiraz. The OZ Syrah did not come directly from France.

Do not know why SA called them Shiraz.

Thanks. For som reason I assumed Shiraz was of Austrailia.

Gerald,

Thanks for that info. I had not heard this put forth before - only the possible tie to Iran, re the naming.

Appreciated, Hunt

If you are in Charlotte much, you might want to try LaTorre's it is in uptown Charlotte near the IJL building on the same street I believe as the Capital Grille. Not sure how much Syrah or Shiraz you might see, but you most definitely will find some wonderful South American wines and cuisine.

Haven't been in a year, work has moved me away :-(

My 2 cents to this: I was in Charlotte in the first week of January this year for one evening. I ate at Zink on the North Tryon Street (not too far from the big Bank buildings - Wachovia, Bank of America) and had some really well-made fish (Sea Bream) with a wunderbar Russian River Cabernet Sauvignon. My colleagues were very happy with their steaks as well. The service was friendly though I had trouble to understand the accents ;-)

Flying from Frankfurt, the best part for me was to sit in the patio in early January for dinner without thick sweaters or jackets!

Cheers

in article snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, gerald at snipped-for-privacy@slaweck.bz wrote on 6/7/05 3:29 AM:

I don't know about that. I think you'll find that Busby, the guy who brought the first cuttings over from Europe and started the Aussie wine industry, got most of his cuttings in Europe and actually toured the Rhone in search of material. It is true that he stopped in Cape Town on the way to Oz, but so did every ship back then.

Marcello

"Marcello Fabretti" wrote.............

Marcello, you are 100% correct - in fact James Busby (1802-1871) really lived up to his name - he was a real busy bee (sorry!!!)

As a youth he studied viticulture in France before immigrating to Australia with his parents, where he pioneered grape growing in New South Wales.

He later returned to Europe where he gathered cuttings of some 600 varieties mainly from France and Spain; successfully growing over 350 at the Sydney Botanic gardens) - and returned them to Australia where he is now regarded as the "father of the Australian wine industry."

However, this same James Busby is also accredited with being New Zealand's first winemaker (1833) after he "saw the light and fled the flies and bushfires" and jumped the Tasman to Godzone!!!

in article f0BCe.1259$ snipped-for-privacy@news.xtra.co.nz, st.helier at nospam@thisaddress.4me wrote on 18/7/05 6:32 AM:

You couldn't help yourself... ;)

Marcello