Southern Rhone

I'm not sure what this taste is, but DH doesn't taste it. I recall it once or twice previously in the last few years. This time I took note of the winemaker and see that it is wine from a reputable winemarker, so I will not mention it, as it smells like barnyard dung. I'm wondering if it is the grenache, although I've not noticed it in other grenache/syrah.

It is just a hint in the taste. You can't smell it.

Yes, I know barnyard dung -- born a hillbilly. Dee Dee

Reply to
Dee Dovey
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Bad bottle, probaly brettanomyces infection. Grenache does not smell of dung :-)

Reply to
Mike Tommasi

Thanks, Mike. I googled brett -- I'm impressed with your knowledge. Just another one of those questions that I'm not going to have to postpone until I get to the Pearly Gates :-))

Dee Dee

Reply to
Dee Dovey

I'm one who can't stand it. Too many bottles are contaminated these days, some worse than others. Most of them seem to be Spanish and French. The minute I sense brett, the bottle goes back or gets dumped.

I recent years I've had problems with wines from Pesquera (1996) and Condado de Haz (2001). When I returned the wines, the local rep tried to blow me off with some snooty b.s. about not appreciating the wines' "rustic style." Fact is there was nothing "rustic" about it -- the wine was contaminated. I have Condados in my cellar from other (earlier) vintages that are just fine.

Some of you may recall a similar incident I had several years ago with Costco over a stanked-out Kirkland-label Bordeaux. I received a similarly arrogant "you don't know jack" attitude from their wine queen at the time, but I refused to back down. A few days later all that wine was pulled from their shelves.

Brett -- a good name for a Maverick brother. Not so good as a wine "nuance."

JJ

Reply to
jj

What is worse when buying Costco is to buy a bottle one likes, and then decide to buy, say, 6 more bottles. Then, the 1st of the "6 more bottles" stink, and then you're faced with opening each one with trepidation.

The scenario that is most likely to happen in this household is that if it is a mediocre, but tolerable, wine to begin with, one starts to doubting one's own judgment of buying 6 bottles (of anything!).

Here at our Costco, I've taken corked bottles back. I leave the un-drunk wine in the bottle to show that I've not finished it off. As for "you don't know jack" attitude, here in Winchester, VA, I've never encountered any attitude at all for any purchases. But I have encountered that attitude at another big warehouse store, of which I am no longer a member, but not totally for that reason.

Dee Dee

Reply to
Dee Dovey

One man's garbage is another man's brett!

Reply to
davidwine

No, but some people identify Mouverdre as the "culprit" in Beaucastel.

Or it could be brett, as you say, Mike.

If it is just a hint, many wine lovers would say it is a good thing, though opinions differ.

Reply to
Steve Slatcher

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