TN: Lipton in NY (Burgs, Syrahs, SB, Riesling, more)

Feb 28, 2011 6 Replies

Mark Lipton was in town, and we were thrilled when he agreed to trek to Westchester for dinner Sunday. Jeff Grossman also agreed to make the trip, and we invited Alex and Hilary to round out table. Fortuitously, A & H were going to a play a block from Mark's hotel, so gave them a ride up. The basset hound was delighted to see everyone, and we settled down to pop lots of corks. Betsy was hard at work on dinner, I handled the appetizers and first sitdown course.


1996 Chidaine “Almendra” Montlouis Brut The starter ( with Gabrielle Hamilton's pickled shrimp and apple/trout/ horseradish bites). Big, deep, fairly subdued fizz, apple and bread with some mineral notes. Mark pointed out that it didn't really scream Chenin Blanc, true but I enjoyed a lot. B+

We went with a few whites as we waited for Hilary who had left to do some kid ferrying, and then sat down for a starter of white bean puree with smoked oyster and radish.


2006 Courier Sauvignon Blanc I opened this because the winemaker used to post on AFW, where I first met Mark. Big, dense, not very SB typical, this is really interesting, but at the moment not so thrilling. B-


2004 F. Cotat “Culs de Beaujeu” Sancerre Hey, it's Cotat, that means I like it. B+/A-


1989 Trimbach "Cuvee Frederic Emile Vendange Tardive" Riesling Nice showing, dry but with rich sweet fruit, long and precise. A-/A - my WOTN

We moved to reds with Betsy's bouef en croute, a vegetable tian a la Alain Ducasse, and green beans with fromage blanc (Betsy was chagrined to realize later she forgot the toasted hazelnuts).


1979 Domaine De Chevalier (Graves) A good showing, but then this always seems to show well A-/B+


2002 Joseph Swan Syrah Mark said someone declared this OTH, but seemed young and a bit coiled to me. I'm a fan of Swan's PNs, first Syrah I remember trying, thanks Mark! B/B+


1999 Clape Cornas Jeff brought this, what a nice treat. Even tighter, you can sense the quality but currently quite stern, a B for now, but this could soar easily into A range


1988 Montevertine Riserva With a lot of wines the only red I revisited twice, for me this is a pointe, just lovely deep Sangioves, what most Brunellos merely aspire towards. A-


1983 Morot "Teurons" Beaune 1er I'm always a little concerned with '83s, but this was fine. Sweet good fruit, holding nicely, no sign of rot, though not most complex wine. B/ B+


1988 Jadot "Clos des Corvees" Nuits St. Georges 1er Jeff had just said that I seemed to know how to use Ah So when I tried on this and cork slid right in. We decanted through filter, loose cork or not a solid wine. Some tannin, dark fruit, quite masculine. B


1995 Fourrier "Clos St. Jacques" Gevrey-Chambertin 1er When opened this seemed cranky, midbodied, dominated by unripe tannins. Mark thought it got better, and indeed it improved, but never seemed that giving to me. But by the end a B

With cheeses (good Ossau Iraty, Stilton, ok camembert, dying Muenster) and Betsy's lemon tart, a couple of half bottles:


1997 Trimbach Gewurztraminer Vendanges Tardives Moderately sweet, but seemed a little short, I've definitely had better bottles of this . B-


2004 Pfeffingen "Ungsteiner Herrenberg" Riesling Beerenauslese (Pfalz) - good acidity, lots of botrytis, but a bitter edge. B



Overall, a pretty good wine night- nothing cooked, corked, or over the hill, and even my least favorites were at least interesting. However, more importantly the company was good and lively. Lucy was a little whiney when she finished her marrow bone, but folks bore it in good humor. Nice night with nice people.



Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I woul


Sounds like fun. Really enjoyed the notes. Montevertine sounded better than my last bottle (1997). I've become adddicted to Domaine de Chevalier Blanc glad you enjoyed it. I think I have one more bottle of 1989 CFE VT maybe I'll openit soon. Thanks

Wish I had been there...

actually it was 79 DDC rouge.

I sent everyone home (or to hotel) with a bottle or three. Jeff reported back that on re-serving that the Trimbach Gewurz was corked, which explains subpar showing. Must have been just under my threshold

First of all, thanks to Dale and Betsy (and Lucy) for so graciously and generously hosting a dinner at their house on a Sunday. The food was splendid (no surprise), the company was congenial and interesting (again, no surprise) and the wines were simply overwhelming.

I did say to Dale that it didn't really remind me of other examples of sparkling Chenin that I've had, but that doesn't mean that I didn't like it. In fact, I refilled my glass with it twice if memory serves. Age had definitely transformed the wine into a more subtle and -- dare I say it? -- Champagne-like fizz. Delicious.

...which Dale made and which was very delicious. When you read his raving about Betsy's cooking, believe it, but don't discount Dale's ability to create tasty food, either (the great shrimp appetizer was also his creation -- triple yum)

It had the tannins of a skin-contact white, but the color was still quite pale (most likely SB doesn't even impart much color) and it lacked what I consider to be the aromatic character of SB. Instead, it came across as a dense and acidic white: quite serviceable but nothing that really spoke to me.

Yes, a nice wine, but the weakness of the vintage in Chavignol I think showed in this wine, which wasn't as lively or as flavorful as I'm used to from the Cotat cousins. A nice wine, regardless.

And what a wine it was! Just brimming with flavor, long, intense, fruity with bracing acidity. I won't argue with the WOTN designation. Thanks so much for opening it, Dale.

Amazingly youthful at this late date. Great Graves character with stones, leather and plummy fruit. Just lovely and probably my favorite red of the night.

I wish in retrospect that I'd given it a hard decant when we first opened it, but I was lulled into a false sense of security by reports on Cellartracker that said that it was ready to go (back in '09 and '10, no less). As usual, the lesson is to not trust what anyone writes on CT unless their name is DaleW or 14Frimaire ;-) This wine was tightly wound and never really opened up through the hour that I monitored it. There were hints of the great wine lurking within, but it was more an exercise in Kremlinology, alas.

Yet another closed up Syrah. I told Jeff that it should be a really special wine in 5-10 years, but right now it's mostly about structure, with nice dark berryish fruit lurking underneath.

I haven't had enough Brunello to comment on your observation, but Montevertine makes probably my favorite expression of Sangiovese. This was the oldest Montevertine I've had and it was still fairly young tasting to me. It was lovely, though, with lots of tart cherry and a hint of leather, and went famously with the beef. It gave the '79 DDC a run for its money among the reds.

Since I had selected this wine from your cellar, I was delighted to see how nice it was. It was open, fruity and balanced, but yes a tad simple. Still, it was a very appealing wine.

Alas, I have no memory of this wine. Did I even pour some for myself? Who knows, so I'll just keep quiet about it.

Because I was the slowest eater at the table and one of the slowest drinkers, I had the opportunity to return to my original pour of this wine an hour later. By that time, it had opened up fairly well and was showing much more fruit than earlier. It needs lots more time, though.

Jeff has mentioned that later on this wine was noticeably corked, so it most likely was fruit scalped when we tried it.

I didn't notice the bitter edge to the wine, but I am notoriously insensitive to bitter flavors. Even after opining that I can't easily get past botrytis in wine, I found this BA lovely and a great match with Betsy's Meyer lemon tart (one of the few desserts that I eat, as it happens).

In concluding, though, I must add that the evening as a whole was delightful and Dale the consummate host. As the supposed "guest of honor" I felt overwhelmed with Dale's generosity and graciousness. As a longtime fan of Richard Olney's writing, I have a dream of someday penning a volume devoted to the delicious meals served at Dale and Betsy's: "Betsy's Westchester Table." ;-)

Mark Lipton

Me too, sounds like a great night.

Although serving the cheese and tart together... ;)

-E

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