wine by sea

Hi, we'd like to receive your opinion about the possibility to ship a container from Italy to Far-East in summer period. Is there somebody that has experience in this sector? Is the wine subject to alteration?

Thanks for your cooperation.

Neanderthal75

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Neanderthal
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My knowledge is a bit out of date (about 35 years) but in a previous incarnation as an international bank lending officer, we had a case similar - cheese which went through the Suez Canal in July in an unrefrigerated container. The cheese was subject to "alteration." I'm not sure what financing you are arranging, but then we used an irrevocable letter of credit that specified "shipped in refrigerated container"

I would suggest you talk to your banker who can get you in touch with the proper folks to protect you and get a good freight forwarder to arrange packing and shipping.

And yes, shipping wine in summer along the equator will subject the subject to alteration, if not refrigerated.

Ronin

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Ronin

Reefer, reefer, reefer.

Pretty sure this would have to travel either Suez or Panama (or around a Horn), so refrigerated is only way to go. In fall or spring you can get by with a "below waterline" guarantee

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DaleW

And you have done this before?

Reefer, reefer, reefer.

Pretty sure this would have to travel either Suez or Panama (or around a Horn), so refrigerated is only way to go. In fall or spring you can get by with a "below waterline" guarantee

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Richard Neidich

Mmmm, I was in Cairo twice in the springtime and temperatures were in the high 90s. Suez is probably much hotter.

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Mike Tommasi

In a former life I was an executive in the transportation logistics business and now I'm involved in the wine biz as a retirement job. You need to use a forwarder or exporter....don't try it on your own without help. You need "protective service" which means that it will be shipped and cared for in a refrigerated (reefer)container and maintained at a prescribed temperature. I would specify 45F since it gives you a bit of a cushion. You will need the forwarder/exporter to take care of the paperwork and to arrange land transportation to and from the Port. I've done this about 500,000 times and it is quite complicated.

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Bi!!

I meant the "below waterline" guarantee.

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Richard Neidich

I would concur as in my former life I was a principle at Sundor Brands, we owned Sunny Delight and Rolling Rock Beer of Latrobe, PA.

Shipping containers really is a difficult business...my biggest issue once was a container clearing customs in San Juan, from Tropicale of Riviera Beach Florida....for some reason took 10 days or something, refrig went out, the sunny delight started to explode from heat.

In a former life I was an executive in the transportation logistics business and now I'm involved in the wine biz as a retirement job. You need to use a forwarder or exporter....don't try it on your own without help. You need "protective service" which means that it will be shipped and cared for in a refrigerated (reefer)container and maintained at a prescribed temperature. I would specify 45F since it gives you a bit of a cushion. You will need the forwarder/exporter to take care of the paperwork and to arrange land transportation to and from the Port. I've done this about 500,000 times and it is quite complicated.

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Richard Neidich

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