Betadine discontinued: UK replacement for sanitizing brewing equipment?

Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 groups, as I read them all.
I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer.
The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price.
Comments?
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Adam Funk
> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 > groups, as I read them all. > > I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap > of several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution > (aqueous, povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. > I asked for a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's > been discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for > something identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse > sanitizer. > > The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for > veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but > Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. > > Comments? >
What's wrong with sodium metabisulphite?
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Tim Watts
>> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 >> groups, as I read them all. >> >> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap >> of several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution >> (aqueous, povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. >> I asked for a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's >> been discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for >> something identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse >> sanitizer. >> >> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for >> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but >> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. >> >> Comments? >> > > What's wrong with sodium metabisulphite?
I'm pretty sure I used to nick the Milton, in the days of nappy buckets.
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newshound
>> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 >> groups, as I read them all. >> >> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap >> of several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution >> (aqueous, povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. >> I asked for a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's >> been discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for >> something identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse >> sanitizer. >> >> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for >> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but >> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. >> >> Comments? >> > > What's wrong with sodium metabisulphite?
You have to rinse it off thoroughly. OTOH, you can soak clean equipment in the right dilution of Betadine for a few minutes, let it drip for a few minutes, & use it that way --- it's a lot easier.
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Adam Funk
> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 > groups, as I read them all. > > I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of > several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, > povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for > a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been > discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something > identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer. > > The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for > veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but Vetadine > is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. > > Comments?
Try "StarSan", it's a US product. I can't recall where I got mine, but GIYF.
I did try an iodine-based one, but it left a taste behind - ruined 45 bottles of beer :(
I only use it for bottling. For sanitising demijohns, fermenting buckets etc, I use the powder chlorine stuff (WPP IIRC).
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Jethro_uk
>> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 >> groups, as I read them all. >> >> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of >> several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, >> povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for >> a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been >> discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something >> identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer. >> >> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for >> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but >> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. >> >> Comments? >> >> > What's wrong with sodium metabisulphite?
It's not "no rinse". Because I bottle my beer, trying to sanitise 45 bottles, and then rinse them is a PITA. Then I read in a forum about no- rinsing, and a bottle-washing pump. You fill the pumps bowl with 500ml of no-rinse sanitiser (StarSan), and press the bottle down onto a spout which sprays the inside. Leave to dry, bottle. Been doing this for over a year now, and it's perfect.
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Jethro_uk
> >> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 >> groups, as I read them all. >> >> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of >> several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, >> povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for >> a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been >> discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something >> identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer. >> >> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for >> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but >> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. >> >> Comments? > > Try "StarSan", it's a US product. I can't recall where I got mine, but > GIYF. > > I did try an iodine-based one, but it left a taste behind - ruined 45 > bottles of beer :( > > I only use it for bottling. For sanitising demijohns, fermenting buckets > etc, I use the powder chlorine stuff (WPP IIRC).
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> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 > groups, as I read them all. > > I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of > several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, > povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for > a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been > discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something > identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer. > > The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for > veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but Vetadine > is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. > > Comments?
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>> What's wrong with sodium metabisulphite? > > It's not "no rinse". Because I bottle my beer, trying to sanitise 45 > bottles, and then rinse them is a PITA. Then I read in a forum about no- > rinsing, and a bottle-washing pump. You fill the pumps bowl with 500ml of > no-rinse sanitiser (StarSan), and press the bottle down onto a spout > which sprays the inside. Leave to dry, bottle. Been doing this for over a > year now, and it's perfect.
Same here.
I happen to have a drawer from an older freezer whose holes are perfectly suited to holding upside-down beer bottles without touching the inside or the lip. For rinsing, I brought one of these
from the US, then had to make my own adapter to fit it on a British garden tap.
But after using no-rinse Betadine solutions, I don't want to go back to rinsing even the other equipment, never mind the bottles. I'll look up StarSan --- thanks for the tip!
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Adam Funk
> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 > groups, as I read them all. > > I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap > of several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution > (aqueous, povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. > I asked for a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's > been discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for > something identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse > sanitizer. > > The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for > veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but > Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. > > Comments?
What's wrong with using a dishwasher? Surely a non-eco one will get up the temperatures required for sterilising?
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Fredxxx
>> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 >> groups, as I read them all. >> >> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of >> several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, >> povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for >> a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been >> discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something >> identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer. >> >> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for >> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but >> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. >> >> Comments? > > What's wrong with using a dishwasher? Surely a non-eco one will get up > the temperatures required for sterilising?
Technically, it's not sterilising, it's "sanitising".
Fitting 45 500ml bottles in a dishwasher in one go ....
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Jethro_uk
>>> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 >>> groups, as I read them all. >>> >>> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of >>> several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, >>> povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for >>> a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been >>> discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something >>> identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer. >>> >>> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for >>> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but >>> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. >>> >>> Comments? >> >> What's wrong with using a dishwasher? Surely a non-eco one will get up >> the temperatures required for sterilising? > > Technically, it's not sterilising, it's "sanitising". > > Fitting 45 500ml bottles in a dishwasher in one go ....
...& the shortest programme on mine takes 45 minutes.
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Adam Funk
>>>> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 >>>> groups, as I read them all. >>>> >>>> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of >>>> several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, >>>> povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for >>>> a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been >>>> discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something >>>> identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer. >>>> >>>> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for >>>> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but >>>> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. >>>> >>>> Comments? >>> >>> What's wrong with using a dishwasher? Surely a non-eco one will get up >>> the temperatures required for sterilising? >> >> Technically, it's not sterilising, it's "sanitising". >> >> Fitting 45 500ml bottles in a dishwasher in one go .... > > ...& the shortest programme on mine takes 45 minutes.
And I thought that brewing was a slow process!
I think mine might just take 45 x 500ml bottles, certainly in 2 batches!
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Fredxxx
> >>>> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 > >>>> groups, as I read them all. > >>>> > >>>> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of > >>>> several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, > >>>> povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for > >>>> a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been > >>>> discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something > >>>> identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer. > >>>> > >>>> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for > >>>> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but > >>>> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. > >>>> > >>>> Comments? > >>> > >>> What's wrong with using a dishwasher? Surely a non-eco one will get up > >>> the temperatures required for sterilising? > >> > >> Technically, it's not sterilising, it's "sanitising". > >> > >> Fitting 45 500ml bottles in a dishwasher in one go .... > > > > ...& the shortest programme on mine takes 45 minutes. > > And I thought that brewing was a slow process! > > I think mine might just take 45 x 500ml bottles, certainly in 2 batches!
I take it you put them in upside down? Each on one of the tines, f'rinstance?
How can you be sure that will get enough water in through the narrow opening to wash them out properly?
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Tim Streater
>>> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 >>> groups, as I read them all. >>> >>> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap >>> of several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution >>> (aqueous, povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. >>> I asked for a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's >>> been discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for >>> something identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse >>> sanitizer. >>> >>> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for >>> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but >>> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. >>> >>> Comments? >>> >> >> What's wrong with sodium metabisulphite? > > You have to rinse it off thoroughly. OTOH, you can soak clean > equipment in the right dilution of Betadine for a few minutes, let it > drip for a few minutes, & use it that way --- it's a lot easier. >
A trace of sod.meta. is surely fairly harmless though - it's a permitted food preservative, aka E223. Granted you don't want to nuke the yeast, but the same must apply to betadine.
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Tim Watts
>> > I think mine might just take 45 x 500ml bottles, certainly in 2 batches! >
Oven bake at a bit over 100C? Slow heat and slow cool to avoid cracking the glass.
OK it's not fast, but it's low hassle.
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Tim Watts
Tim Watts wrote in news:318v3b-bo3.ln1 @squidward.local.dionic.net: >>> > >> I think mine might just take 45 x 500ml bottles, certainly in 2 batches! >> > > Oven bake at a bit over 100C? Slow heat and slow cool to avoid cracking > the glass. > > OK it's not fast, but it's low hassle. >
I have heard that repeated baking will stress the glass. It's low hassle until all your bottles explode under low pressure.
Back to the original question: StarSan is a good, no rinse sanitizer. I don't know how hard it is to get in the UK.
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Bart Goddard
"Adam Funk" wrote in message news:b6ju3bxqp.ln2@news.ducksburg.com... > Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 > groups, as I read them all. > > I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap > of several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution > (aqueous, povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. > I asked for a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's > been discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for > something identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse > sanitizer. > > The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for > veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but > Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. > > Comments?
I've never bothered with sanitisers at all with my brewing using plastic barrel fermenters, just wash them out well with cold water using a plastic sponge to rub the grunge off and being very careful to only use the sponge for that and throw it out and get a new one when when its getting a bit well used. Never had any infected batches.
Don’t do wine tho.
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Rod Speed
"Jethro_uk" wrote in message >>> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 >>> groups, as I read them all. >>> >>> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of >>> several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, >>> povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for >>> a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been >>> discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something >>> identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer. >>> >>> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for >>> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but >>> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. >>> >>> Comments? >>> >>> >> What's wrong with sodium metabisulphite? > > It's not "no rinse". Because I bottle my beer, trying to sanitise 45 > bottles, and then rinse them is a PITA. Then I read in a forum about no- > rinsing, and a bottle-washing pump. You fill the pumps bowl with 500ml of > no-rinse sanitiser (StarSan), and press the bottle down onto a spout > which sprays the inside. Leave to dry, bottle. Been doing this for over a > year now, and it's perfect.
I use the dishwasher for my glass bottles. Both what we call stubbys, 375 ml and longnecks, 750ml. Works fine.
With the 750ml PETS I use a little non scented bleach in the bottom, fill with water, let it stand overnight, rinse well with cold tap water. You do have to be careful to rinse well otherwise you can kill the secondary fermentation and end up with flat beer.
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Rod Speed
> > > "Jethro_uk" wrote in message >>>> Sorry for the crossposting --- feel free to reply to any one of the 3 >>>> groups, as I read them all. >>>> >>>> I'm about to start back on some winemaking & homebrewing after a gap of >>>> several years, & my bottle of Betadine Antiseptic Solution (aqueous, >>>> povidone-iodine USP 10% w/v) is almost empty & has expired. I asked for >>>> a replacement at the local pharmacy & was told that it's been >>>> discontinued (searching the WWW agrees). I'm looking for something >>>> identical or similar under another name to use as a no-rinse sanitizer. >>>> >>>> The closest things I've found are Vetadine & Vetasept, both sold for >>>> veterinary use. They look like the same thing as Betadine, but >>>> Vetadine is only sold in small bottles at a much higher price. >>>> >>>> Comments? >>>> >>>> >>> What's wrong with sodium metabisulphite? >> >> It's not "no rinse". Because I bottle my beer, trying to sanitise 45 >> bottles, and then rinse them is a PITA. Then I read in a forum about no- >> rinsing, and a bottle-washing pump. You fill the pumps bowl with 500ml of >> no-rinse sanitiser (StarSan), and press the bottle down onto a spout >> which sprays the inside. Leave to dry, bottle. Been doing this for over a >> year now, and it's perfect. > > I use the dishwasher for my glass bottles. Both what we > call stubbys, 375 ml and longnecks, 750ml. Works fine. > > With the 750ml PETS I use a little non scented bleach > in the bottom, fill with water, let it stand overnight, > rinse well with cold tap water. You do have to be > careful to rinse well otherwise you can kill the > secondary fermentation and end up with flat beer.
And? This *is* a UK group. The one I'm reading is, anyway. We don't normally do fizzy beer.
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