bubbling after fining??

I have 2 batches of completed whites. A gewurtztraminer and a sauvignon blanc, both made from fresh juice. I initially treated the musts with lysozyme at the time of the initial yeast addition. The fermentation went well, I cold stabilized for about 3 weeks in sub-freezing weather, and then I brought them inside in a 55 degree cellar. At that point, there was absolutely no bubbling. By the way, the wines were always adequately sulfited. The wines were slightly hazy so I fined with Super Kleer (Kieselsol and Chitosan)in a room of about 65-68 degrees. Within 3 days, the wines were perfectly clear, but at that point, I noticed occasional tiny bubbles. I racked one of them off of the fining lees, but left the other one on the fining lees.

At this point, I suspect that I might be getting a spontaneous MLF, in spite of the sulfite and the initial lysozyme. So, to the batch that has already been racked, I added another dose of 1 g/gallon of lysozyme, but so far I'm still getting the occasional bubble. Any suggestions about what to do next??

The other possibility is that this is just dissolved CO2.

I have other batches of whites that are also a bit hazy and I suspect that the same thing will happen with them. Should I add lysozyme before fining?

Thanks for your help

Lee

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Lee
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What yeast did you use??? Was it one of the "D" Lalvin yeasts??? Just curious. Anyway it could be CO2. I guess the only way to know for sure is a chromo test. Do the bubbles come from the bottom of the container and travel up the side of the glass??? Or do they mysteriously appear on the top?? Do they from a ring around the neck of the carboy???

Bob

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doublesb

Lee, If you are sulfited above 30 PPM I doubt it's MLF. It could be your carboys are warming up and giving off the CO2 in saturation from the wine. Did you check for RS? It could be that too. I have had wines start up again that were over 0.25% residual sugar.

Joe

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Joe Sallustio

I think I'm zeroing in on my problem, and I'm planning on posting another message. I've noticed that on these completely fermented wines, if I take a syringe and just suck back 10 cc of wine and then re-inject it into the wine, and so this over and over, then I get a huge amount of bubbling and frothing. In other words, I'm sure that it's just dissolved CO2, and I guess I'll just drain off a gallon, so that there's room for bubbling, and then I stir it like crazy until the bubbling stops.

Lee

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Lee

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