ferment stuck solid...seeking advice suggestions

Hi all, thought I'd put this to the group....

23l apple wine from crushed fruit, champagne yeast, with nutrient at startup. Went well in primary , transferred to secondary glass carboy at ten days, only to stop bubbling. SG was rechecked, it was 1030. No joy after two weeks (room temp 75 constant) so added yeast nutrient. No joy after another two weeks so added new champagne yeast (stirred in, no starter made). Bubbled feebly for about 24 hrs then quit. SG still 1030. I dont want to waste this much wine until I've tried everything you guys' best suggestions would have me do, so can anyone advise me what I should try next?

Thanks guys

Sean

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snpm
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Sean, Try a different yeast and make a starter. I would suggest Lalvin K1V1116; it's a good all purpose yeast and is alcohol tolerant. I think you might have left all of your initially viable yeast behind when you racked and the second champagne yeast couldn't propagate in the existing alcohol, but it's just a guess.

As to what next:

Hydrate yeast per the instructions.

Add to 8 ounces water + 3 tablespoons sugar.

Once it gets going well add that to 8 ounces of this apple must.

Add that to 1 pint of must, once it's going;

Add that to a quart of must, once it's going add that to the batch.

It sounds like a lot of messing around but I doubt this will take more than a day or two to get through.

Do it now though, so> Hi all, thought I'd put this to the group....

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Joe Sallustio

Same problem here. Started with water, apples, maple syrup and sugar. SG was 1.080. After 2 weeks, SG was 1.050, I decided to transfer into a carboy. After 2 other weeks, the SG was still at 1.050, and it really tasted like juice. So I retransfered into bucket and added new yeast (EC 1118), 2 days after, SG was still 1.050 and no bubbling. It started to look and smell really wierd, so it finnally went down the drain. Snif. I thought maybe the maple syrup had something in it to prevent fermentation? Or is it the yeast that cannot ferment maple sugar? I'll try next year without the maple syrup. It doesn't cost anything since the apples grow in my backyard.

Sorry I know that this doesn't help you, but our problems are alike and I'll be glad if some> Hi all, thought I'd put this to the group....

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rchouine

Joe, when you do the doubling of the starter, do you have to keep racking the remaining stuck must into smaller containers to prevent air exposure or is it okay to leave the carboy untopped for the 1-2 days this'll take? I haven't had to do this yet (knock on wood) but I've always wondered about that part - having to protect the leftover would be a pain.

Thx,

Pp

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pp

To be honest it would be best to limit exposure to air or refrigerate the remaining must. That's why I would do whatever i was going to do immediately.

Joe

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Joe Sallustio

To be honest it would be best to limit exposure to air or refrigerate the remaining must. That's why I would do whatever i was going to do immediately.

Joe

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Joe Sallustio

Thank you, Sir

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snpm

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