On 11/26/03 4:18 PM, in article wC9xb.94716$ firstname.lastname@example.org,
Aside from some Amberhill Cabernet and perhaps some nice fruity white wines
from Northern Michigan, I will definitely serve my cranberry melomel and end
with my "pretty good port".
I will be supplying wine for the (large) family gathering. We will have:
Red - Shiraz from Cal. grapes
White - Pinot Grigio from a BK kit
- Gewürztraminer form a Spagnols kit
Desert - Peach/Apricot Chardonnay from a Island Mist Kit
After dinner - Dewberry Sherry
I wanted to use my Cranberry that I started last year but I think it need a
bit more time.
Looks like Cava this year, smaller crowd, still anti-french sentiment,
like sparkling and probably 1994 LBV at end when everyone is loosening
the belt a little. 2002 Bin 50 will be out for Red, just in case.
Too many years ago when an officer cadet at the Royal Military Academy
Sandhurst I had to study a particular General in detail as part of my
military history studies. My first choice out of a short list was Alexander
the Great and my second was Stonewall Jackson. Happily for me my first
choice was accepted and has led to a lifetime fascination of the life and
times of Alexander, his predecessors and inheritors.
However it meant that I never studied the history of the USA in any detail,
which might have been nurtured had I researched General Jackson in the
detail to which I had done with Alexander.
So much of my knowledge of your history is based on peripheral knowledge
gained over a lifetime and is not without an element or two of detail.
However there are huge holes ( "black holes" is appropriate ). One of them
is your Thanksgiving date. Oh I understand the background of its historical
beginnings but have no idea of the date -- which is obviously at this time
It approaches the vagueness of " when is Easter". Hopefully it is not a
feast that spreads it date over several days ( or even weeks like
Christmas ). One of the sad things in UK is the deterioration of the ancient
"celebration" of "Guy Fawkes Night" ( Bonfire night ) on 5 November. As a
boy and for the last 400 odd years it had been celebrated uniquely on the
night of 5 November with a preceding evening ( Mischievous Night --
probably the antecedent of your Halloween). But that was it.
On an ever increasing basis it now covers about 2 weeks by various profit
and non profit organisations having their individual "safe" nights --
augmented by the local vandals letting of illegal "bombs" from the end of
September. or it happens on the nearest weekend before or after! Quite sad
It is akin to me only eating fresh strawberries when they are in season
locally at the end of June/early July.
I can now buy hot cross buns all year round in my local supermarket but I
don't -- it is a treat at Easter when I bake my own.
I am, inevitably a product of my age -- but there is so much more inherent
pleasure in events that re-occur annually, in season and briefly. If you
extend the season then the pleasure is diluted to an eventual nonentity!
Oh sorry --- there I go again! All I originally started out on was that I
didn't know the date ( fixed?) of Thanksgiving day
Trust the US to have 2 "Christmases" ( you know -- family emotional times)
If any of you were nearer I might send you a bottle of my 4 year old
strawberry "Champagne" but I have only 3 bottles left!
Happy thanksgiving to all in USA
Sorry for the ramble!
Nice to hear from you, Trevor!
Happy Thanksgiving to you too - even though it's just an ordinary Thursday
in the UK.
I'm sipping my penultimate bottle of 1987 Rutherford Cabernet as I write. I
may hold the last one for another decade or more, as it still has lots of
unresolved tannin and plenty of fruit remaining. Cheers to all!
I opened a bottle of my 2002 wineberry wine.
Earlier this year, I was complaining in this group that, at 12
months old, the wine was too harsh and tart. Now at 16
months old, the tartness is gone, and it's very good.
Patience is a virtue, happy Thanksgiving!
as to when the date for our Thanksgiving is, we just look it up on the
yearly calendar. No, it doesn't spread over a period of days. It's all us
adults who tend to spread over a period of years. But, actually, it's our
unique creation. Something purely American, where we stop and say "thank
you" to the Great Almighty for everything that we have. I'm sure that there
are those who would tie Thanksgiving into some sort of Harvest festival. No
doubt it is, of a sort. But it's something more than that. I could ramble
here, too, but I would get rather spiritual.
Unfortunately, Thanksgiving has now been seized by commercialism as the
excuse to start the (American) Christmas holiday season. I dispise this
completely. I avoid stores and shopping malls at this time.
As for Halloween, I am surprised at you, Trevor! All Hallow's Eve, hmmm?
In the southwestern states where there has been a strong latino influence,
you will also find 'Dios Dei Los Muertos' or 'Day of the Dead' (apologies
for incorrect spelling). This is from the Aztec culture.
Hi Trevor - In the US Thanksgiving is celebrated on the fourth thursday in
November, thanks to President Lincoln. It's a big family day. My wife and
I just had the 38th Thanksgiving dinner here at our house. Twentynine
family members attended, nine of which are under 5 years. The dinner is
usually turkey and traditional side dishes but this year our theme was
Italian. We have a non-turkey Thanksgiving every few years just to shake
the group up. I served a cranberry/raisin wine but my family is not big on
wine. Light beer, fruit punch and Coke were consumed in large volume.
So much of my knowledge of your history is based on peripheral knowledge
A follow up to my own post. This was the beer drinking side of the family.
I should not have bothered or rather I should have taken a case of Bud! The
Red went untouched except by me. The white went untouched except by me.
One bottle of sweet wine was drunk by the curious. The Sherry went
untouched. I didn't have the heart to open it just for me.
Oh well, next year it will be the other side of the family.
wow, listening to all the different kinds of wines you guys and gals are
producing and imbibing, I feel like i'm a boring nothing....Very interesting
assortment of wines!!!!
I had some kit wine - a shiraz - that I overoaked, so use most of it for
cooking, but thought I"d see what it was like again after 6 months.
And also some Concord Grape wine, which in this area is the favourite of
most of my friends! It was very good!
I mostly make fruit wines as there are not a lot of excess winemaking grapes
around, unless I venture out 2 hours north or 2 hours south next year and
try to get some grapes... just didn't have the time this summer, and
suddenly, motorcycle season and grape-picking season are allllllll over!
now it's a frigid below-freezing temperature! ugh!
right now I'm destemming and chopping pears which I received from a
friend...whatta chore, but it's good to get another batch started!
Happy holidays to you all -
I'm in Traverse City. It's good you didn't try to make the trip this
year. You couldn't have purchased grapes for any money: about 90%
wiped out by the -25 degree days in March :-( .
Even in the best years begging to buy grapes up here for home
winemaking is a long shot. Of course I haven't looked under every rock
yet so perhaps...
Anyway, there's always next year.