Price of beer in Your town/city ? (Real life price comparison)
Jan 14, 2004 51 Replies
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Alessandro Riolo
To add some other point to that point: the thread immediately derived towards a discussion concerning beer temperature. That is, the fact the beer was more closely guarded than the daughter didn't shocked anyone, so far. I know, it is cultural relativity, I would have to guess that, but by taughtion and cultural heritage I can't absolutely understand how that can be possible. Here we have beer, fermented cereals, there we have daughter, human being, flesh of our own flesh. Using an US euphemism, that would be a no-brainer.. or not at all? :-)
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Mark Borgerson
Yup---to the extent that they make it into the national news reports and are pertinent to the topics discussed here. Seems that New Jersey is following in the wake of California, Canada, and Massachusetts on the issue of domestic partnerships. I had always thought New Jersey was more conservative---but that may have come from watching too many episodes of 'The Sopranos'.
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Ring Ring
Kinda dead, alt.beer. I suppose the beer lovers be drinking beer instead of posting ;)
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Lew Bryson
Um, no. As with most anything, there are large exceptions to that. Good rule of thumb: beer is usually served (and tastes best) at the temperature at which it is matured, not fermented. Two different things, two different temperatures. Some Belgian styles are fermented at temperatures as high as
90F, but they're matured at warm cellar temp, around 65F. I ain't drinking no 90F Tripel, thank you. And he's certainly right about Kölsch and Imperial stout: both are brewed with a top-fermenting yeast, but the Impie is matured at a cellar temp, the Kölsch is cold-matured (lagered)...and both are properly served at those respective temps.
There's a lot of that "top-brewed" "bottom-brewed" stuff out there (and it's top and bottom-fermented, like Dan said, BTW: "brewing" refers to the whole process, top/bottom fermenting really refers to where the yeast flocculates in the vat) these days, low-quality info on beer is a glut on the market. Not all of it is necessarily right.
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Lew Bryson
Well... I think the fact that the story was facetious, a joke, was universally recognized. We chuckled, then did our fanatic's discussion of the beer factors of the joke. We aren't THAT bizarre. Although...who knows what sexual habits the man may have had? British mating rituals are cloaked in mystery, wrapped with secrecy, and smothered in embarrassment.
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Ring Ring
Yes yes ICE beer.
Old joke, someone forgot the words.
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Lew Bryson
I broke up with one girlfriend because her European father wanted me to have sex with her four times a day. Sex-crazed continentals...
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Ring Ring
Where ?
: bought in a bar, 2.00/beer, (12 0z. bottle), 1.00/draft (16 oz.)
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Penelope Periwinkle
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 01:52:28 GMT, "Lew Bryson" secretly encoded this message:
It would have made for some interesting breaks at work.
Especially for your co workers.
Penelope
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Mark Borgerson
Excellent. A nice twist on Churchill's 'riddle wrapped in a mystery' characterization of Russia.
Mark Borgerson
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Penelope Periwinkle
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:26:51 GMT, "Alessandro Riolo" secretly encoded this message:
Maybe he was a hunka hunka burning love and the daughters didn't want to be chained in their room. Or, well, maybe they did, only by the hunka hunka burning love.
But did anyone ask the beer how it felt about being consumed? Was this guy a hunka hunka burning beer discernment? Huh, did you think about that? What if that poor beer had waited its whole life, had dreamed and yearned to be sipped and savored by the most elite of beer epicureans, to be swirled across the tongue with its roasted malty goodness filling the mouth in an explosion of rapture. Did you ever think about that?
What if our hunka was a beer swiller, one of those vulgar chuggers who swallows a thin, watery mass produced beer only to barf it back up? Even the bravest micro-brew would quail at the thought of ending life as a crusty scum on the bartender's mop!
Oh no, you just rushed to the defense of those two sleaze muffins like you thought they'd give you some, too! Ha! Even those two knob slobberers wouldn't give it up to someone who would dis' a respectable beer!
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Lew Bryson
Actually, I was trying to cut a deal with him to make it FIVE times a day and throw in a prayer rug, but the whole thing fell apart on which direction we had to be facing when we did the nasty.
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Rich Soyack
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Oh, and a discussion of the State funded, Women ONLY College at Rutger's University is not pertinent to the topics discussed here? LOL.
Anyway, New Jersey is one of the more liberal States in the Union.
Rich Soyack
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Dave Gibson
Well of course, the main purpose of a fridge is to preserve food, so they are set to 2 - 3 Celcius the same as you.
Depends on the beer - lagers are drunk straight out of the fridge, as would be a nice brown ale such as Newcastle Brown or Manns.
Decent beer is kept out in the coolest / darkest part of my unheated workshop in the winter months and comes out just fine after being heated by the room temp 20 oz real pint glass.
In the summer months the bottle spends 15 minutes in the freezer nestled in between large bags of frozen peas and sweetcorn before drinking.
Also I never ever buy beer or lagerin cans - always tastes crap to my mind.
In England at least, beer normally refers to the native brews, ales/stouts etc, lager is reserved for the mostly chemical crap drunk in vast quantities by those that do not know better, and also the quality 'beers' that come from Europe)
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Patrick Ahrer
A short additional information concerning Google: They are listing all europa.* groups that ever existed there. Some of them were officially rmgrouped a while ago. Please don't use those anymore. For official information about europa.* look at
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Joel Plutchak
Good points. I'll muddy the wort even more by pointing out that even many ale yeasts "flocculate" on the bottom of the fermenter. True top-croppers seem to be in the minority these days.
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Rich Soyack
I bow to your superior knowledge. My comments were based on comments made to me, many years ago, from a master brewer at a now defunct Staten Island brewery.
Rich Soyack
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Leszek Deska
Prices of beer in Poland (shown in Euro):
0.5 l in shop: around 0,60-0,70 Euro
0.5 l in pub: 1,70 - 2,50 Euro
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Catherine LG
Le Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:40:17 +0100, Leszek Deska a écrit :
Wow !!! Last summer : 0,5 l = 5,40 Euro !!! in a pub in Brittany [that's the part of France inhabited by the cousins of the Welsh ;-)]
(I'm not up to date with current pub prices, although I really like beer.)
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Lew Bryson
Holy Jesus, make a note: a reasonable man on the Internet. Kudos to you, Rich.
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