Bring back smoking inside pubs :-(

Lose the dogs. They frighten our kids and last time we ate in a nice pub garden a poodle crapped by our table. Of course, the owner wouldn't clean it up.

E.

Thing is, to stay in business, the pubs need their local trade still. And there are an abundance of people in the world who want to go to the pub to watch sports. Even I'll go for the rugby sometimes.

Well perhaps they shouldn't have knocked the bars through then! There's plenty of pubs that manage well without entertainment for durbrains.

Don't you find the average bar it bit small to put up the posts?

Just trying to work out which is worse - smokers, dogs, kids or tv.

I'll think about it.

We visited Sark a couple of weeks ago. Smoking still allowed in the pub there. It seemed strange, even so soon after the ban.

We control our dogs and clean up after them - not that that has ever been needed in a pub/garden.

Screaming kids in pubs .... another reason why I visit pubs very rarely these days :-(

Guess those of us who want to use a pub for just a few pints and a good chat are outnumbered. Sums up this country today I suppose :-(

Guess I'm too old to change. I will *not* use pubs that have TV or allow noisy kids ....

Here the first 2 are banned already, the 3rd are limited which makes the last the next target hopefully. (But unlikely target although some bars advertise TV free rooms)

Lack of beer mats.

Take my own these days . Stops the beer swilling all over the place.

I'll let you have one Gareth. Usually have some in my pocket (guess what for)

I've nicked a Knight Rider one out of The Railway ... It amuses me.

It's a shame you can get personalised ones for a sensible price in very low quantities (10 or so).

... can't ...

In message , Hugh Jampton wrote

I've just come back from North Yorkshire and spent a lot of time inside the pubs - what a joy to have a smoke free atmosphere. Perhaps pubs should consider banning smoking inside and out?

I didn't have a single duff pint during the week - which isn't typical of the beer served in many pubs in SE Essex.

Showing sport is a sign of a bad pub landlord who cannot attract any trade by selling beer.

Other pubs to avoid:

Those with door 'staff' comprising of the smokers blocking the entrance and providing a visual deterrent to potential passing trade.

Those advertising Karaoke. If you thought the rejects for the X factor were bad then think again!

Those with pub quizzes. I had the misfortune of visiting two York pubs last week with quiz nights. Both were CAMRA recommended GBG pubs. Getting a drink in one was impossible as there were no bar staff during the quiz. Any slight sound was met with a shhh! Luckily in York there is always another pub within two minutes walk.

Disagree. My local is one of the top real ale pubs in the country, by CAMRA definition, and it has TVs in 2 of its 3 rooms, although only one is usually on at any one time.

Live Rugby League draws the biggest audience.

It sold over 2,000 pints of real ale last week, as it does every week.

Agreed.

Agree with this too.

Pub quizzes are a successful way of getting (sometimes lots of) extra customers into the pub on a quiet night. Yes, you might have to keep your conversation down for a while, but in the pubs I frequent, there's always someone serving beer, as well as someone running the quiz.

You could, of course, participate in the quiz, too. Winning is great fun, I assure you :-)

In message , Mike Roebuck wrote

There is _always_ one exception but local to me the pubs that advertise Sky sport tend to be the worst ones in the area for drinking. On my recent visit to N. Yorkshire it was noticeable that the pubs advertising Sky were often the pubs with a poor or non-existent range of Real Ale and with little trade whereas neighbouring pubs were busy.

It seemed to me that if you were local than please come in but if you are a visitor than please f**k off. I visited the two pubs in question because of the recommendation of the good beer guide. My recommendation still stands and it is to avoid a pub during a quiz night if you want a drink and a normal pub atmosphere.

That's a good idea - stand at the bar and give the answers when the question is asked.

As is being able to tell a lucky contestant the distance from Leeds to Manchester in a pub in a remote village in Wales.