TT Landlord

Gosh someone else who shares my opinion of Landlord! We are few and far between.

Err, no...

Following up to Bob

never tried it that I remember.

The bottled version isn't that wonderful but the draught is a superb best bitter. It has deservedly won awards. Mind you, it helps if it's well kept. There was a cellarman at the Victoria in Lincoln called Dave. He knew how to keep beer and took a great pride in his work. The TT Landlord in the Vic was (and I hope still is) ambrosaic.

Bob

Well you probably got a bad pint, it's all upto the cellaring the beer has received, it's usually a good beer...

Ralf

Agreed. On form it is a delightful beer. Like many beers though it is becoming what I term a WATER* ale.

• Widely available therefore easily resented.

Why do people rate Harvey's Sussex Best Bitter so highly? It's just brown beer!

I'm not so fond of it either - but I think it's just a question of personal taste. I much prefer Ram Tam.

TT is fairly notorious for needing a long time to "settle" - a week or so - and many places sell it too green. When IMO the sweet and bitter components of its flavour just don't marry together at all.

in article snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, Bob at snipped-for-privacy@privacy.net wrote on 22/04/2004 05:03 am:

Garrett Oliver calls Landlord "wonderful", Roger Protz describes it as "magnificent", Michael Jackson declares it "superb", Brian Glover thinks it "a classic", Fritz Maytag says it was one of the inspirations behind Anchor Brewery's highly-regarded Liberty Ale - and 'Bob' says "yuck".

Hmmmmm.

Seeing that this was posted to three different newsgroups, my suspicion is that Bob is a troll.

If not, he's either an idiot, or genuine, but up against a very large number of widely-experienced beer drinkers who disagree with him completely.

Oh, great, here we have one of those idiots who like a beer because they've been *told* to like it.

Garrett Oliver, Roger Protz, Michael Jackson & Brian Glover should get out there and reconsider. Landlord is *nothing* special.

And as for Landlord being the inspiration for Liberty Ale, there's no comparison. At least LA has some character, which is more than can be said of Landlord.

And my suspicion is that you're a Yorkshire man who doesn't like a beer from your part of the world be criticised.

Now who is the troll?

In message , Martyn Cornell writes

The other possibility is that he's tried a lot of bad TT's. The vast majority of Landlords I've had in the last few years in the Midlands,South and SW have fallen in the awful to mediocre range, something that seems to happen to most good beers as they get more widely distributed. The same thing happens to Fullers beers outside London.

Luckily I know what a good TT Landlord tastes like and a good one is superb. Just wish I knew where to reliably find one near to home.

Of course Bob's own reply confirms he is just a troll, its that time of year again. Don't feed the trolls.

Hi

His exact words - in "Brew your own real ale at home" are:-

"A superb beer of enormous character and complexity......Stunning, mouth-filling, multi-layered interweaving of malt and hop with intense hop and fruit finish."

I make no comment on the above except to wonder whether it was written after too many pints of homebrew!!!! 8^)

Regards

P.S.

If you fancy making 5 gallons of T T Landlord, the recipe (according to the above book is:-

All Grain version Golden Promise Pale Malt 4,280 grams

Start of (90 minute boil) Styrian Golding hops 39 grams Fuggles hops 32 grams

Last 15 minutes of boil Goldings hops 15 grams Irish moss 10 grams

Malt extract version Replace the pale malt with 3,300 gm of pale-coloured, premium grade, malt extract syrup.

I have made the all-grain version several times and it does produce a nice pint of homebrew round about 4.7%.

KGB

Martyn Cornell - a made-up name if ever I've heard one - said

It's not a competition to see who's got most people on their side though is it? If you don't like it, you just don't like it, whatever Protz et al say about it.

Well, I'm a Lancastrian and I say it's bloody marvelous (though lacklustre when not on top form).

It's always September somewhere in Usenet...

"I don't like XXX" rather that the emotive and in my mind immature "XXX is a rubbish beer".

Though I suppose given the audience here, I guess you are on safer ground with Caffreys and the like when it comes to the second statement?

It's so good our lass sups it before I can get my hands on it when I leave a bottle in the fridge. Beautiful beer ! Devoid of taste buds? I gave a pint to a work mate who usually drinks Miller sh*** and it blew him away.

Yes it is a troll ;-)

Simon M.