An opinion wanted

Oct 02, 2003 8 Replies

I sent this email to the Penn Brewery in Pittsburgh, Pa..



My wife and I, my daughters, my son-in-laws have been coming to the Penn Brewery for many years. In fact, my older daughter had her wedding rehersal dinner at the Penn Brewery. My wife has been advised to eliminate alcoholic beverages from her diet. Since you do not serve an NA beer, could she possibly bring a couple bottles of an NA beer with her when we come to the Brewery?



******************************************************I received this reply: We'll take your suggestion under consideration but do not permit customers to bring their own beverages into the restaurant. We do serve a number of juices, soft drinks, tea, coffee, iced tea. Thanks for your support of our restaurant through the years. ____Reply Separator_____

I've been to restaurants that allow diabetics and patrons with other medical problems to bring their own condiments, salad dressings, etc.. I would think that drinking an NA beer on a doctor's advice would fall into this category. BTW, the NA beer would be Clausthaler, not the O'Doulle's crap that most all restaurants and bars serve.


I dunno, Tom. Not sure what the PA laws are on serving NA beer in licensed establishments, because PA is weird about NA: although it is non-alcoholic, for instance, you can't drink it if you're underage. It's regulated by the PA Dept. of Agriculture...I think. It's a real gray area, and they may be concerned about possible problems with their license if they allow it to come in without having purchsed it themselves. When you start messing with liquor laws -- or in this case, almost liquor laws! -- you run into real weird stuff. Given the extremely arbitrary nature of PLCB enforcement agents, they may just be really nervous. Not sure.

[...]

Well, I think you're being a bit disingenuous. After all, the doctor didn't say she had to drink non-alcoholic [*] beer, just that she shouldn't drink alcoholic beverages. It's not as if the restaurant doesn't offer alternatives, as they point out. Absent a specific medical need, it'd be like bringing a particularly lean steak into a restaurant because the doctor said you should cutr down you fat consumption-- most any restaurant would have low-fat alternatives, and would correct in refusing to allow food brought in.

-- Joel Plutchak Boneyard Union of Zymurgical Zealots

"Resorting to personal harassment is a tactic of desperation."

[...non-alcoholic beer...]

Whoopsie, forgot the footnote:

[*] Many so-called non-alcoholic beers do in fact contain alcohol. Caveat emptor.

-- Joel Plutchak Boneyard Union of Zymurgical Zealots

"Resorting to personal harassment is a tactic of desperation."

Is there a part of "eliminate alcoholic beverages" that eludes both you and the missus? Hint: so-called "NA" beers are not completely bereft of alcohol. They can contain up to 0.5%. Penn Brewery offers plenty of beverages containing *no* alcohol.

That's because the restaurant offers no alternative to their in-house dressings and condiments. False comparison. Penn Brewery offers non- alcoholic drinks - not "NA" beers, but real non-alcoholic drinks, like, y'know, your frau is s'posed-ta drink and stuff.

Right, because the particular brand of NA drink is of vital importance here. The way I see it, you have two alternatives here: order a nice refreshing soft drink, juice, ice tea, or soda water for your missus at Penn Brewery, or take your business elsewhere if you're dissatisfied with their selection or their service.

I'm on your side, Tom (somebody has to be). I think its ridiculous that they won't honor your request. It seems reasonable to me. I think its good that they replied, and they did say they'd consider it, so maybe bring it up in person to the manager or someone the next time your there.

Some places have just too d**n many petty rules!

Pennsylvania liquor laws are etremely arcane and convoluted. Penn Brewery is probably erring on the side of caution by not allowing anyone to bring in their own beverages. And in Pennsylvaina NA beer is considered an alcoholic beverage, even though the amount of alcohol is minute.

*rolling eyes right out of the back of her head*

I double-dog-dare you to tell your "frau" what she's supposed to drink, and see what that gets you.

fr0glet

If SWMBO was under doctor's orders to avoid alcohol, you'd bet she'd live with a gentle reminder from me. And with patience and encouragement from me, she's broadened her flavor preferences quite a bit - at one time, she didn't like authentic old-style sour lambics, preferring the sweet stuff. She came around eventually. Hey, she's got good taste on her own - porters and stouts, y'know?

Join the Discussion

Have something to add? Share your thoughts — no account required.

Didn't find your answer?

Ask the community — no account required