Good WHisky?

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Cigar malt.

lg Gernot

The 21 is an outstanding, sherried after-dinner drink. The 12 is like a slightly less assertive Macallan.

The "Cigar" I will never taste because of the presence of that word in its name.

-- Larry

The Dalmore 12 is generally regarded as one of the better values in SMs. The Cigar Malt is a very nice whisky, rated 81 by Jackson. Forget the name and try the whisky. The Stillman's Dram is also rated 81 but a bit pricy.

No way. Since places that offer cigar smoking are places that I can't go to to drink whisky, I won't support in any way the association of smoking and drinking. Which means that, on principle, I'll never be tasting that whisky.

You can, of course, do what you want, but they won't be getting any of my money.

-- Larry

That's kind of like refusing to eat Bleu Cheese because your favorite team's colors are Green and Gold, isn't it, Larry?

The idea of the so-called "cigar malt" is to create a whisky that compliments that questionable habit, which is a difficult task, IMHO, due to the dulling, diluting effect of any tobacco on the palate. The whisky itself, had Dalmore not put it on the label as a name, is quite good and in no way whatsoever evokes images of tobacco smoke. It is simply a style with a (perhaps) objectionable name to some. I hope someone slips you a dram (in good faith) during a blind tasting someday. Nice whisky.

Green and gold? Notre Dame? No!!! Aarrgghh!!!

That's not an appropriate simile. My favorite colors wouldn't affect other customers' enjoyment of the cheese shop.

Smell and taste are so interrelated that I don't see how anyone can enjoy whisky in a cigar-smoking establishment. I know I can't, and my wife simply won't go into one. She can even tell if I've been somewhere with one person smoking cigarettes -- like my pool hall -- from the odor left on my clothes.

-- Larry

Dave Hinz wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net:

I'm all about whisky and cigars. My best hour of the day is my cigar and whisky and coin collection hour after dinner.

The Dalmore 12 strikes me as bland and boring with a cigar. I may try the Cigar Malt in the future, if it fits the bill. What I'm looking for is a syrupy mouth feel in the finish, as in: sniff, taste, palate, finish, smoke. This doesn't enhance the taste of the whisky but it greatly improves the cigar experience.

Best bets for me so far have been Speysides/Highland with a bit of sherry. Lately I've been trying the Aberlour 10 with a Honduran maduro. Good combo.

I hate to admit it (sacrelige), but the Dalmore 12 has been getting into my morning coffee on Sundays :)

Have you tried Cognac, Armagnac, or Salignac? They would seem more likely to give you what you're looking for than any but a very heavily sherried (or ported) whisky.

-- Larry

pltrgyst wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I've never tried any of them, but I'll give it a try one day soon. I wish that there were places in my neck o' the woods where one could smoke cigars and sample a wide choice of drinks. I don't think it's allowed in the People's Republic of California :)

Which fiefdom? Northern Prefecture or Southern Kingdom?

There are five cigar bars in the Northern Prefecture (two in SF, one in SJ, one in Liverspot, one in SR) that I'm aware catering to this. Ask your local cigar source for a list; I'm sure he could quickly produce it.

The Ranger

The only brandy that I have found palatable, in my 60 years of drinking, is Germain-Robin Alambic Brandy, Single Barrel, distilled 100% from colombard wine. It's made in Ukiah, California. Pricey.

Interesting. I have yet to find anything from Germain-Robin that I consider palatable, and I love Cognacs and similar liquids. But then I can only claim to have been "drinking" for around 43 years, since I didn't really start until age

2. You must either be *really, really* old, or to have started "drinking" around age 5. 8;) Either way, good on ya.

-- Larry

Hey, wait a minute! Green and Gold are my high school colors, and I've never met a cheese, SMS whisky or (good) cigar I didn't like. ;-))

No argument on the second hand smoke. I drink at home and the only thing that smokes is my choice of Islay or the fireplace when the wife puts the logs in the wrong way and leaves the door open.

But I'm talking about whisky. Forget the label and taste a dram. Or better yet, have a friend buy a bottle and ask for a sample. I still like the blind tasting method as a way of being objective.

Ugh. Sorry, should have said Pro Team.

Well, the fact that Dalmore thinks it's a good Scotch to drink with cigars, doesn't mean you _have to_.

How does that effect taking a bottle home for enjoyment?

Dalmore Cigar was a purchase that I shall never make again.

It was INTENSE!

Too intense.

The crop-bearing sweetness that pummelled me with vanilla and cocoa was just too much (said the man that enjoys sherry-finished drams). It had me thinking I was touring Hershey chocolates. The finish, while silky smooth, was another slap of mousse.

OTOH, both my BILs loved it.

Speaking of Dalmore, back in 2004 while visiting the distillery, they showed a short movie about a new Dalmore called Dark Isle (named of course for The Dark Isle just south of there.)

It went on to suggest three additions to the tasting: coffee, dark chocolate, and.... and.... (I forget).

Anyway, has anyone tried Dalmore's Dark Isle?

ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford

Harlan Lunsford wrote: > Anyway, has anyone tried Dalmore's Dark Isle?

See, and I thought Orkney was the Dark Isle. The Orkney Brewery do a lovely Dark Isle Ale, so I thought Highland Park would be the Dark Isle Whisky. Live and learn.