The List (October 2004)

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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 19:33:12 +0200, the alleged Tim O'Brien, may have posted the following, to alt.drinks.scotch-whisky:

Thank you, for top-posting and including, hundreds if not thousands of lines of the previous post just so your four precious words could be propagated to servers throughout the world.

Regards, Rob "PLONK" Crowe

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Robert Crowe

Uzytkownik "Tim O'Brien" napisal:

In fact, there is nothing to thank The Doctor for. Most frequent users of this NG have known him for ages. Also, it has been proven beyond any doubt that his list of revelations is incomplete, full of mistakes, and totally unreliable. Not to mention the fact that to most of us slight caramel adjustement does not really matter. It's not as if the whiskies were adulterated with some artificial additive. It's just pure caramel that they add to maintain colour consistency from batch to batch. Anyone who knows what whisky is about knows that as well. The Doc has probably never posted anything whisky-related apart from his infamous list, and most of us treat him as a troll. And learned to ignore his regular postings of "The List".

Cheers, Rajmund

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Rajmund M

I second that!

Johan

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Reply to
Walter Schmidt

I don't see how. As Rajmund pointed out, he contributes nothing to the ongoing conversation, his list is incomplete and contains errors, and its single criterion is largely irrelevant as to whether a malt is any good. I know nothing about him other than that he has this bugbear about coloring. I don't even know whether he ever enjoys a dram.

cheers.

bill

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Bill Van

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:39:50 GMT, the alleged Bill Van, may have posted the following, to alt.drinks.scotch-whisky:

I have to agree with Bill. "The Doctor" has a large burr lodged up his ass regarding the colo[u]ring of the whisky, without any regard for the taste of the whisky. A few parts per (thousands|millions) of colo[u]ring agents are extremly unlikey to have any effect on the taste of good whisky.

Regards, Rob "Waves at Bill" Crowe

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Robert Crowe

Uzytkownik "Walter Schmidt" napisal:

Are you saying that suggesting that Lagavulin 16yo is inferior to, say, any given uncoloured Tomatin (if there is one) is pointing newcomers into the right direction? I beg to differ.

Cheers, Rajmund

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Rajmund M

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Bill Van wrote (give or take a snip);

And who's to say the "Doctor" isn't some automated bot that runs every month?

Reply to
Geoff

Not me. But if he is, that doesn't make him either more or less useful or educational.

Reply to
Bill Van

All this discussion about "The list" does lad me to a question that hasn't been asked here.

Is there, in fact, a list of whiskies that are out in the market (forgetting anything about color, taste, cost, ratings, etc). Is it even practical to ask for such a list? And lets forget about the various books by MJ and others as they are also not complete from what I've seen (imho).

Being in the US I'm always on the outlook for different and unique whiskies that I haven't had in the past. A list of (maybe broken up by availability/country??) what is available might make me feel like I can at least look for or ask for a particular whisky that I at least know is available (in the US in this case) without be sounding too foolish to the proprietor or make be go on a wild goose chase.

As an example at Town Wine and Spirits in Providence RI (US) I know I can order anything that is available in the US and they will get it for me as they really understand the single malt business and are one of the best liquor stores in the US as far as I'm concerned (even though they profess to be a "wine" store). So all I would have to tell Elliott, the owner, is what I wanted and he would get it without question. I wouldn't have to ask him what is available (that I haven't on my shelf or haven't tried in the past). However in most other liquor stores they wouldn't have a clue if it was available at all unless they called the supply house and that becomes a hassle for them and me. If I know it is available in the US from a list that is accurate my options of how and where I would buy the whiskey would make life a little more pleasant.

just a thought

Dave

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DaveS

The Doc pulls it out of his arse, the same place he keeps his head. Is it any wonder that both The List and his head are filled with the same stinky *stuff*?

Reply to
Mac Guffin

a fantastic and well informed statement! (sarcasm!)

is that all you have to contribute? some foul language? is that what this ng has come to? you're not doing much with regards to opposing the Doc's list with this kind of behaviour.

i for one like to think that lovers of scotch malt whisky have class. am i mistaken?

Reply to
Robert Kane

The List is riddled with so many errors that is is virtually worthless as a source of accurate information, regardless of whether one feels that E150 is a detriment to malt or not. This so called "Doc" has posted it here and nothing more whatsoever for quiet some time. So, I stand by my statements. He's a tool.

As for class, does one need to step in BS and call it clover to rate as a good chap in your insular world? Not mine.

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Mac Guffin

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