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You certainly get a lot of answers that way... But, what to recommend as a gift for a wine-savvy person is less clear... Would a Cheval Blanc 1964 at

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I think you mean 63.

Ron Lel

yup, you are correct.

You mean colheitas or single-quintas? Becuase I don't think I've ever seen a Vintage Port from 1964. Most houses stick to the idea of never declaring 2 in a row, and I can't imagine anyone didn't declare '63. Dale

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yup...and because I was thinking poorly.

Dick, I wouldn't apply the epithet 'great' to 1964.

It was a decent year - in which no major house declared because they had all declared the previous year. A similar thing happened in 1967.

You should be able to find some decent Ports from minor houses that are still drinking well. The Noval Nacional for instance.......;-)

The Trotanoy is magnificent.

One goof in a year and you couldn't let it rest huh....

Thats it, I am asking Bush to invade Canada and get the Flu Drugs for us too. :-)

I just bought a new minivan for SWMBO - and I've got news for you - it isn't only with drugs that the disciples of President Dufus take it in the shorts.

The price of new cars in Canada is far lower than the same car is in the States, where they were usually made, the reason being that we Canadians wouldn't buy any if they just charged the same as they charge you in the home of the brave and apparently not free or even reasonable ;-)

We have to sign a pledge that we will keep the car and will not sell it to an American who could smuggle it into the States as black market goods - a rather bizarre situation. I can't think of any other situations where you would want to smuggle a product back to its country of origin.

The people selling drugs and cars in Canada make money on them at the prices they charge - or they wouldn't do it.

How does it feel to have to bend over and say 'Thank you Sir. for sticking it to me...."

Forgive me taking a mild poke at someone else's government - I get little opportunity to do that and have to be satisfied with moaning about the ridiculous prices charged by our own Canadian liquor monopolies.....If I buy a bottle of wine for $50 in Seattle, it would cost about $108.50 if I just showed up at the border and asked to import it. And they call it 'Free Trade' because.....??

Well, another US one- at least a few years ago I think Kodak still made much of their film in US, but grey-market (and this is grey market, not blackmarket) film was far less than white-market.

It wasn't that long ago (when dollar was strong) that Canadiens would buy cars in US, this is probably more currency fluctuation than anything else. Though many companies have different pricing strategies for different companies. Dale

Dale Williams Drop "damnspam" to reply

See Bill...thats the problems with you Canadians.... you have no pride.

If you had pride you would buy a SUV-not a Mini Van :-)

I think we should invade Canada and steal the Flu Vaccines :-) Could be we declare them as WMD's and then come and get them!

Sorry for the dry and sick humor.

That isn't pride, it is self-delusion! ;-)

Test drove a Dodge Magnum - macho two ton vehicle with far less rear cargo space than the TV ads show - they make it look like a van interior. Must use a fisheye lens.

They lie to us as well - they call it a 'Hemi' engine when it isn't, but why should truth stand in the way of a catchy term with lots of name recognition.

SUVs that never leave the asphalt but fill the need to be macho are another sop to those insecure in their masculinity. A triumph of appearance and image over utility!

A Real Man isn't afraid to own a minivan (especially if it is his wife's car and he needs it to carry parts around and tow his race car, as I do), or to drink pink fizzy wine, Goldurn it!!

Reminds me of the book "real men don't eat quiche"

Enjoy Bill. I do not know many horse jokeys that raced cars too.:-)

I read your post a while ago and let it percolate for a while, but finally decided it needs a response. First, let me note that you surprise me that you should resort to the anti-intellectual level of name-calling when you begin a political discussion. Your reasoning is not bolstered by the tactic.

You might want to check the country of origin of your minivan. Large numbers of "American" vehicles under GM, FoMoCo and MoPar labels are produced in Canada. If not in total, at least in significant percentage.

Second, your anecdotal evidence that your experience was that US cars in Canada are discounted significantly below what the same vehicle is sold for in the US needs some elaboration.

Who makes you "sign a pledge"? Is it the government of your country? How could the US impose its dominance over your Canadian sovereignty?

As for another product...how about cigarettes? Heavily taxed locally, they are restricted from re-importation from jurisdictions outside the US.

Ditto for drugs in Mexico and most of Asia. Still, I don't think I want to trust my health to Southeast Asian antibiotics if I'm really sick.

Beneath you completely.

Ahh, so things aren't totally screwed up south of the border? Hey, wait till you become home to Alex Baldwin, Barbara Streisand, Michael Moore, Eminem, Sean Penn, etc.

Meanwhile, my recommendation is to up your nationalism considerably. Buy only Canadian products. Get yourself a Canadian minivan. Run a Canadian computer on a Canadian operating system. Get a Canadian TV and watch movies made in Canada. Read books by Canadian authors and defend your nation with exclusively Canadian military forces.

Now, let's get back to wine.

Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled"

I have to say that the 1995 Trotanoy is my favorite "right bank" Bordeaux to date. How does the 1964 compare? I have only been drinking Bordeaux since July, and am having a blast catching up on all I have been missing over the years. What other "great" Trotanoy years are there?

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