I would like to buy 6 bottles of 2005 Champagne and store this until
2023.My question is when does 2005 Champagne become available? And, assuming proper storage, can I expect most good Champagnes to be drinkable in
2023.Thanks in advance.
Jason
Vintage Champagnes are typically released three to five years after the vintage year (by law, no earlier than three years for vintage Champagnes).
I've had plenty of 20 year old vintage Champagnes that were just fine. Two weeks ago I opened two bottles of sixteen year old Champagne (1990 Veuve Clicquot La Grande Dame and 1990 Bollinger) and they were both wonderful. In very different ways, but each really, really nice.
You might consider buying different brands, so that if one particular brand didn't age well, you still have the others.
Note that non-vintage Champagnes may not age as well, and while it may sound silly that wines that are simply a blend of wines from different years won't last as long, there is some reason for it. Champagne is typically made from up to three types of grapes, and one of them, pinot meunier, doesn't age well and is rarely used in vintage Champagnes.
Shaun Eli
You have it all wrong.
The trick with Champagne is to have others buy it for you.
Why do you even post here? Your ignorance of wines is matched only by your antisocial disposition.
No Michael, *you* have it all wrong.
By your own admission you know absolutely nothing about the wines of France - let alone Champagne.
Please restrict your comments to a subject about which you know at least something.
Wow, I read the reply earlier but didn't have time to post a thank you response. So now I log on to send one and read all this fall out.
Champagne, I agree, is a great gift to both give and to receive but at the end of a particular period any person of integrity should be net zero in terms of giving and receiving. So the key is not to have others buy it for you. As the phrase goes "what goes around, comes around" and ultimately you will be a net loser.
I posted to plug into the shared knowledge of the group and I wasn't disappointed by the first reply. Thank you.
st.helier wrote:
"Jase" wrote in news:1154295703.097487.198830 @h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
I assume that 05 is a vintage year for at least some houses? I ask because not every year produces vintage champagne, most are bottled nv and have a little of a mix from year to year, and not every house declares a vintage in the same years. So there may or may not be an 05 in the house that is desired.
A number of houses "re-release" a particular vintage. dom p frequently does this, 10 or 12 years after vintage. this is recently bottled wine.
one can pretty much tell when champ was bottled by the cork. cork is soft and flares, fresh bottle. cork is rock hard, and does not open up at all after opening, cork is over 5-8 years old.
I am not a fan of old champagne, but many people are real big on it.
there is of course bolly's RD w>I would like to buy 6 bottles of 2005 Champagne and store this until >2023.
This was an attempt at humor. Too bad you're so dense you did not get it.
Your attempt was feeble at best. Humor comes after you've managed to accomplish the ability to conduct civil dialogue. By your own admission you know next to nothing about wine, yet you're too closed-minded to learn from those who do. With your bridges so definitively burned in this newsgroup, why keep coming back?
I know TONS about wine. So long as it's from Italy, I'll at least try it.
Do you honestly think I care what other people think? Are you that naive? If I cared what the vast unwashed masses thought, I'd be drinking Fetzer.
Surely you would not want that.
You are the one who says there is no such thing as oxidation and decanting to allow wine to open up is a waste of time. You are too thick to learn how to appreciate wine. The only thing you show off is your ignorance.
Oxygen ruins wine. Mature wines need no 'air' or 'breathing'. Only immature wines may need that. After all, ageing is controlled, slow oxidation.
I rest my case, you are too stupid and stubborn to warrant further attention. *plonk*
Sad, so sad.....
Finally at last - welcome to the club!
M.
Wine lore is full of factual errors and myths. I choose not to follow this stupidity. I refuse to rate wine by 'points'. I refuse to breathe wine. I refuse to talk about wine except as it relates to food.
I enjoy wine. I don't enjoy talking to morons who THINK they have a clue, but don't. I don't read wine magazines or pay attention to Parker.
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