Dom Romanee Conti Le Tache, Guigal Cote Rotie La Ladonne, La Mouline etc,
Turley Zinfandels and Petite Syrahs, Caymus Special Selection Cabernet,
Sassicaia, Penfold's Grange Hermitage, Vega Sicilia. These are fairly
representative of high end wines with limited distribution and unlimited
Burgundy: Romanee-Conti, Leroy
Rhone: Guigal's LaLas (single-vyd Cote-Roties), Chave Hermitage,
Chapoutier Ermitage, Henri Bonneau Chateauneuf-du-Pape, Ch. Beaucastel
Hommage a Jacques Perrin
Spain: Vega Sicilia, Pingus
Piedmont: Gaja Barbaresco, Sori Tildin and San Lorenzo
Tuscany: Sassicaia, Ornellaia, etc.
California: Screaming Eagle, Bryant Family, Marcassin, Araujo
Australia: Penfolds Grange, Clarendon Hills Astralis
Note: I interpret "high end" as meaning expensive, scarce and in high
demand -- not as any indication of what I like. Should that not be what
you meant by the term, please clarify.
If you want some of the most high end red wine, you may have to buy it
at auction, and it could take a few years to find some of it. Below are
a few of the most famous.
Chateau Mouton-Rothschild 1945;
Chateau Latour 1870;
Chateau Cheval-Blanc 1947;
Musigny Vieilles Vignes 1949, Comte de Vogue;
Le Romanee-Conti 1945;
La Tache 1945;
Very old(late 1800's to 1945) Biondi-Santi Brunello from a few select
years(not recent ones);
Quinta do Noval Vintage Port 1931;
I understand to enter certain areas of fine wine shops where they keep "rare
wines" they check you out with Dun & Bradstreet first. I've heard that in
LA they sell rare wines on an "are you worthy basis"---not only do they
check out your credit--they send someone to visit your cellar and interview
"friends" to make sure you are a real collector and have wine properly
stored. It doesn't hurt if the last film project you were in grossed 60 mil
at the box office. Kissing the store owner's ring is optional.
"Mark Lipton" wrote ..............
Count me in on that Cheval Blanc deal (my dream bottle for my 60th next
From a couple "business deals" I have available (cash of course!) 2 million
Colombian Pesos and 5 million Iranian Rial.
Will that cover it?
No, in fact I have 3 bottles of Latour 1961 and one of 1945. However
the 1870, from the very cold cellar in a castle of the late Queen
Mother of England, has been reported to be in top form. The 1870 Latour
was one of the most slow Latours to mature that is known, and the very
cold cellar helped. A little of this was sold at auction many years
ago. It is likely to come up for auction again only when some collector
dies or has financial troubles. It may or may not be a bit better than
the 61 or 45, but it tops them in rarity and snob appeal.
There are several other wines one could mention such as Lafite 1959,
Margaux 1953, Petrus 1961, etc., but these, even if as good as some on
the list, do not have quite the rarity and high price as most I
The major wine auctions are quite democratic. Even an exceedingly rare
Tokay Essence over 100 years old or a bottle of classic Constantia from
the 1700s or early 1800s. will be sold to anyone who offers the most
money. You can even bid by phone or mail. I doubt if any of the
Hollywood snob restaurants and wine sellers mentioned by others have
the selection of rare wines offered by the top auction houses in the UK
and USA. The way to handle waiters and sales persons who are not polite
is to see the manager and explain the situation. If the manager does
not correct the situation, just leave the store or restaurant. There
are plenty of other firms that know how to be polite.
"cwdjrxyz" in news: email@example.com:
There's a darker side to this whole business as most of you know. I bumped
into a small instance, but there are big ($$$$) instances, like the
following ongoing scandal or scam, as reported by experts in and out of the
Romanée-Conti is by long tradition the most expensive high-end wine from
France (with occasional exceptions, as when waves of newbies with money are
told to buy Bordeaux and they obey). I'm told that the 1945 has been
perennial on the market, even magnums at extreme prices. I have the
impression that much more of it has been sold than the mere two barrels made
(some 600 regular bottles, including "no magnums"). The last was a remark
to someone I know, at a dinner, by someone who should know the facts. And
who then continued that there are many fake bottles of 1945 Romanée-Conti,
including the one they were currently drinking.
Nearly any type of rare or high-priced item is likely to be copied and
passed off as the real thing. Expensive watches, fine crystal,
expensive perfumes, and paintings are very often copied and passed off
as real. The Domaine de la Romanee-Conti has had several of their wines
copied and passed, especially in the far East. They have been using
individual bottle numbers for years, so if several bottles with the
wrong or same number turn up, that gives them some clue where to look.
Scotch was often copied and passed in the far East between the two
world wars. The 1945 Romanee-Conti is outstanding, quite rare even for
Romanee-Conti, and the last great Romanee-Conti before the old vines
had to be removed after WWII. There had not been enough chemicals
during the war to protect the vines. It was then many years before
great Romaiee-Conti was made again. If one wins the lottery, the only
somewhat safe way to buy this wine is to do so at auction when a
collector dies, and you may have to look for a few years. There should
be a complete paper trail from the day the wine was first sold until
the present. The wine trade likely has no more of this sort of thing
than many other trades. However, there are several new suckers born
every minute, so there likely always will be those who are happy to
relieve them of some money in any way possible.
"cwdjrxyz" in news: firstname.lastname@example.org:
|> There's a darker side to this whole business as most of you know.
|> Romanée-Conti is by long tradition the most expensive high-end
|> wine from France ... I'm told that the 1945 has been perennial on
|> the market, even magnums at extreme prices. I have the impression
|> that much more of it has been sold than the mere two barrels made
|> (some 600 regular bottles, including "no magnums"). The last was
|> a remark to someone I know, at a dinner, by someone who should
|> know the facts. And who then continued that there are many fake
|> bottles of 1945 Romanée-Conti, including the one they were
|> currently drinking.
| ... The Domaine de la Romanee-Conti has had several of their wines
| copied and passed ... The 1945 Romanee-Conti is outstanding,
| quite rare even for Romanee-Conti, and the last great
| Romanee-Conti before the old vines had to be removed after
| WWII. ... It was then many years before great Romaiee-Conti
| was made again. If one wins the lottery, the only somewhat safe
| way to buy this wine is to do so at auction when a collector dies,
| and you may have to look for a few years. There should be a
| complete paper trail ... The wine trade likely has no more of this
| sort of thing than many other trades. However, there are several
| new suckers born every minute ...
Good points, thanks. They enhance the novelty of finding, in a casual
online wine search, two "magnums" of this wine currently offered, each at
over USD 60000 (sixty thousand dollars). From a vintage that as I
understand (according to the informed French gentleman at the dinner)
produced "no magnums."