hachette numbers

Nov 27, 2005 7 Replies

Though not an oenophile, I received a gift of a Christofle wine wheel/coaster that purports to give Hachette info for various years in the range of 1945-1997 and types of wine. For example, red bourgogne (burgundy) from 1945 should continue to be preserved while a red bordeaux is coded to drink now (1997+). My confusion: both wines have a code of 20, while a cotes du rhone has a code of 18. I thought Hachette gave only a few stars. The numbered codes on the wheel range in value from 11-20. Anybody know what they denote? Thanks in advance. Elena



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Hi, this vintage chart seems to use the 20 point scale common in judging wine, at least before Parker introduced the 100 point one. So 1945 was a top year in Burgundy as well as in the Bordeaux. Judging individual wines by this scale you would award up to 2 points for color, 2 point for clarity/brilliance, 4 for bouquet and up to 12 for taste. Minimum acceptable evaluations for these categories would be 1, 1, 2 and 6 - a total of 10.

So, a simple but correct wine would receive 10-11 points, a nice little one

13 points, a good one 15-16, a very good wine 18 and an outstanding and immortal wine 20 points. That would give you some clue to the merits of the various vintages as described by the Hachette system. hth Anders

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:08:39 GMT

] ] "elena" skrev i melding ] news: snipped-for-privacy@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... ] > Though not an oenophile, I received a gift of a Christofle wine ] > wheel/coaster that purports to ] > give Hachette info for various years in the range of 1945-1997 and ] > types of wine. For ] > example, red bourgogne (burgundy) from 1945 should continue to be ] > preserved while a red bordeaux is coded to drink now (1997+). My ] > confusion: both wines have a code of 20, while a cotes du rhone has a ] > code of 18. I thought Hachette gave only a few stars. The numbered ] > codes on the wheel range in value from 11-20. Anybody know what they ] > denote? Thanks in ] > advance. Elena ] >

] Hi, this vintage chart seems to use the 20 point scale common in judging ] wine, at least before Parker introduced the 100 point one. ] So 1945 was a top year in Burgundy as well as in the Bordeaux. ] Judging individual wines by this scale you would award up to 2 points for ] color, 2 point for clarity/brilliance, 4 for bouquet and up to 12 for taste. ] Minimum acceptable evaluations for these categories would be 1, 1, 2 and 6 - ] a total of 10. ] ] So, a simple but correct wine would receive 10-11 points, a nice little one ] 13 points, a good one 15-16, a very good wine 18 and an outstanding and ] immortal wine 20 points. ] That would give you some clue to the merits of the various vintages as ] described by the Hachette system. ] hth ] Anders ]

The 0-20 scale is typical French grading, that's all, as done in every grade school. I looked in Hachette but they have no further explanation. My personal take is that a 10 is a pretty poor year indeed, as that would be a failing grade...

The star system is used for wines, not vintages.

-E

No. Take a look:

or

M.

But, so far as I can see, that has nothing to do with the Guides Hachette which I understood the questions to be about.

Timothy Hartley

] Emery Davis wrote: ] ] > The star system is used for wines, not vintages. ] ] No. Take a look: ] ] ] ] or ] ] ]

Indeed, Michael. But as Timothy points out I was referring to the Guide Hachette system. I meant the above only in that context, of course.

-E

Sorry, I didn't get that. (I'm not familiar with the Hachette guide.)

My apologies!

M.

] Emery Davis wrote: ] ] >>> The star system is used for wines, not vintages. ] ] > But as Timothy points out I was referring to the Guide Hachette ] > system. I meant the above only in that context, of course. ] ] Sorry, I didn't get that. (I'm not familiar with the Hachette ] guide.) ] ] My apologies! ]

No offense was taken, but thanks anyway. ;)

-E

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