New grandson older wines

In celebration of the addition of a new grandson to our family I opened a few bottles yesterday. Quick recaps follow as grandpa was a bit too enthusiastic yesterday......:-)

1996 La Grande Dame-Initial nose of toasted bread and yeasty dough gave way to apples and pears with a bit of apple pie spice. The wine kept changing and eventually showed grilled bread and hazelnuts. B+

1983 Trimbach Clos St. Hune Riesling VT-Fermented absolutely bone dry. Rich and full bodied with notes of limestone and wet slate. A bit of petrol on the nose but really quite under control and not offensive. Plenty of white peach and lemon/lime. A

2000 Sine Qua Non "The Boot"- 50% Chardonnay, 25% Viognier and 25% Rousanne. Really quite interesting, I usually don't go for these exotic blends but this one grew on me. At first it was very Burgundy- like with mineral, citrus and pineapple but after a while the other varietals crept through giving an ever evolving palate with waxy floral notes and a bit of bitter almond. B+

1990 Chateau Montrose-Very dark purple red with note hint of age. A bit of rustic funk on the nose at first and a tad edgy on the palate with a touch of Brett. Opened after an hour showing black fruits, currants, espresso and some tar. Big brawny tannins this one needs more time but it does have a rustic charm. A-

1990 Chateau Lafite-More reddish purple than the Montrose. Sleek and elegant yet quite powerful in a subtle way. Tons of rich, mostly black fruits yet there was a bit of red fruit peeking through. Cassis and blackberry with a bit of red raspberry and touch of tobacco all very well balanced in a smooth package. Smooth tannins and a long finish. A

1982 Chateau Montelena Estate Cabernet. A bit cloudy in the glass showing just a hint of brick in the reddish purple color. A bit of barnyard and Brett on the nose. Still a fair amount of blackberry and anise notes coming through with an aedge of minerality. Medium to full bodied on the palate with a fair amount of tannins still showing a fair amount of grip. The wine was showing a bit of complexity with black cherry, blackberry and cassis, a bit of bitter chocolate and espresso on the finish. Still a few more years to go but probably not much improvement left. B-

1995 Jadot Bonnes Mares-Still youthful looking in the glass with no signs of age. Dark Burgundy red and fairly thick with a bit of glass coating glycerin. Nice aroma of mature Burgundy with earthy mushroom, exotic spice and sweet red cherry notes. Beautiful fruit, a bit of red dirt mineral flavors, ripe sappy cherry flavors and a core of acidity made for a well balanced glass of wine. My favorite of the day. A+
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Bi!!
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After that lot, I expect you may be feeling slightly fragile??

Judith

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judith.lea99

I forgot to add, many, many congratulations on the new addition to your family, I have a little grandson, Louis, and I am totally in love with him, it's so much better being Granny that it was to be Mummy!

Judith

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judith.lea99

Thanks for your well wishes! Fragile isn't an option... :-) I had two stents put in three weeks ago, I got thrown and kicked by my horse last week and I've been wild turkey hunting this past week every morning in addition to welcoming our newest grandchild. Who's got time for fragile?

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Bi!!

Sounds like you and Dick Cheney have lots in common with the stents and the hunting. Anyone get shot :-)

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Richard Neidich

Only the turkey.......

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Bi!!

Congrats, Bill! And what a lineup of wines. Wasn't the '90 Montrose one of RMP's "100 point" wines? Your reaction to it seems a bit less effusive (but sounds great nonetheless). Regarding the '82 Montelena: I was just saying the other day that, to me, Ch. Montelena's Cabs are close to immobile. What I mean by that is that, even with 20+ years of bottle age, I detect little if any secondary aromas to those wines. To me, even Randy Dunn's wines develop more complexity than Ch. Montelena's. Even though you describe some "complexity," it seems to be more fruit-centered than what I'd term secondary characteristics.

Again, congrats, Bill, and thanks for the wonderful notes, Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton

That's what DC said after the accident.

Congratulations, Bill. Sounds like you honoured the new addition in fine fashion.

-E

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Emery Davis

One of the benefits of buying and cellaring wines for many years is the availability of terrific wines when you just feel like popping them. RP did give the Montrose 100 pts but I'm not sure if I would agree with that. It certainly could stand up to another 20 years of age and I thought it was a bit disjointed and rustic at this point with a bit more Brett than I care for. I couldn't agree more re: The Montelena. You're spot on with the complexity issue. The nuances were about the fruit but not the typical layering of complexity that comes with age. The fruit evolved in the glass showing different nuances but the wine was really one dimentional. It was good but not great.

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Bi!!

Goodness me, I was thrown, well not quite thrown, I slid very gracefully down the horses neck when he suddenly decided, quick as a flash to eat some lovely green shoots of grass. I had to walk him until I found a mounting place as I am only 5ft tall and he is an Arabian Stallion (not mine).

What's wild turkey, is it the same as turkey that is bred in England?

Judith

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judith.lea99

I'm really feeling out of my depth on this group as I do not have a clue about the wines mentioned, is there a group for people like me who only know a little? I only ask as I don't want to offend any of you by showing my ignorance as it is obvious I am amongst experts.

Judith

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judith.lea99

For many wild turkey is a bird. For some in this group it is probably a bourbon from Kentucky in the USA.

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Considering this group you really do need clarification :-)

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Richard Neidich

I'm a fairly regular reader here, but not a regular poster.

So as a non-expert let me point out that there are plenty of more modest wines discussed here (even going as far as the occasional discussion of the merits or lack thereof of two-buck-chuck, which personally I'm not willing to drink or buy even though I buy plenty of under-$10 wine).

Discussions like "favorite Malbec under $15" are also not uncommon (though I don't think that particular one has come up - anyone?).

Most of the regular posters here seem not to mind ignorance, though some fur flies when ignorant people claim expertise. But I don't know of any other public group as useful and interesting as this one for this particular topic!

So my advice is: stick around. Post questions if you have them (someone will enjoy answering them). Post opinions about wines you've drunk. Etc.

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Doug Anderson

Judith, Fear not! You will never offend by being ignorant. In fact, the questions that you ask will almost certainly spur some excellent discussions that educate us all. When I first started reading this group nearly 8 years ago, I knew a lot less about wine than I now do. This group has been the single most important contributor to my newfound knowledge (and has also introduced me to quite a few marvelous people to boot!). My only warning to you is that this group is dangerous to your pocketbook: you will read about so many wonderful wines (such as are found in Bill's notes) that you will be inspired to buy more. Fortunately, though, you will also read about many inexpensive wines that are very good, too, so you can go broke buying less pricey wines! ;-)

Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton

Judith from your post, am I right to assume you are in the UK.

first I echo Marks comment, please lurk and post.

Tescos has a great deal the moment, they have Lanson NV Black Label at

14.78, great to put away for Christmas.

life and wine are intermixed, you never stop learning and will make silly mistakes. Bulletin boards are educational, this is a good board and you will soon be part of world community.

John T.........Solihull UK

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John T

Aah yes, I know of the Bourbon as I went to Louisville in Kentucky!!!

Judith

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judith.lea99

Thank you Doug, I will stick around I may well learn something.

Judith

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judith.lea99

Mark, you are a love, thank you, maybe in 8 years time, I will be able to contribute a bit more.

Judith

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judith.lea99

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