Re: RP bdx 2008

I'm in my seventies too, and not trying to tell you what to do. But let me point out that it's OK to drink some wines young, and not so good to drink other wines young. Moreover there are some wines (Beaujolais is perhaps the most famous example) that are *only* good to drink if they are young.

So if you are trying to save money and don't think you have the needed time to age a bottle, let me suggest that you don't simply "enjoy [your] wine 'before' it's time," but rather choose your wines based on their drinking well at a younger age.

Re Beaujolais and other wines to be consumed young; yes, I am aware, but thank you for discussing this.

Yes, I 'try" to choose the wines I buy/drink "based on their drinking well at a younger age." I'm not always successful, but I do think about buying a wine that says on a bottle that it's a keeper, and I will and stay away from it usually, in order not to waste my $.

Nope, I don't worry that you are trying to tell me what to do. I appreciate your advice. Dee Dee

Good, then you're way ahead of me, and my apologies if I was telling you something you already knew.

SNIP

Personally I would beware of this as a generalisation. Some of the Cru Beaujolais age well - Moulin a Vent and Morgon in particular but I had an excellent bottle of Regnie 2000 on Thursday which had got lost in a corner of the cellar and whilst different was as good as it had ever been. I always leave my Morgon for several years from the vintage - I am now drinking the 2001 with enormous pleasure. Flavour, texture and length all improve.

Tim Hartley

Yes, it's clearly a generalization, and there are certainly exceptions. However, I wanted to make my point without going into all the details.

In general, the exceptions are only in cru Beaujolais. The wine that is simply called "Beaujolais" almost always needs to be drunk young.

And even when dealing when cru Beaujolais, the ones that improve do so for only a relatively few years. They start going downhill a lot sooner than Bordeaux, for example, usually does.

Do not really agree. I have had some excellent Beaujolais from 1989 and earlier (oldest 1947) the last year that were excellent. NB, I am talking the cru wines, e g Morgon, Moulin-a-Vent, Fleuri.

Considering the path taken by this thread, this is most likely beside the point, of course.

Cheers

Nils

As I said in another message in this thread, I was talking about the wines called Beaujolais, and not the Cru Beaujolais. Moreover, I wanted to make my point without going into lots of details.