Rhineland Wines

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Hi It is Liebfraumilch. Mainly based on the Müller-Thurgau grape used for mass production. The name derives from the vineyards of the Liebfrauenkirche (Church of our good Lady) in, I think, the city of Mainz in the Rheinhessen area of Germany. Anders

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You are right, of course. Had to check my references - there was a Liebfrauenkirche in Mainz, destroyed by fire in the 18th century and presently incorporated in the cathedral there if I've understood it right. But the name of this wine indeed originated at the Liebfrauenstift of Worms and was on record in 1744 as the 'famous Lieben Frauen Milch of Worms'. The wines of today's trading name bear no resemblance to this fame, of course - but there are drinkable Liebfraumilchs around, the likes of 'Blue Nun', for instance. A few bucks more may buy you better wines, however. Anders

The Liebfrauenstift vineyard in Worms is only 26 acres in size. I have rarely seen the wine from it on sale in the US in the past, but not recently. The wine might have been better in the past, or tastes may have changed. However, from the Liebfrauenstift I have tasted and from the notes oif others, it is rather earthy and not in tune with most modern tastes. It likely is a bit overpriced, if you can find it at all, because of the fame of the name. It might be worth tasting once, but most people are likely to find wines that they like better, and for as lower price, elsewhere in Germany.

Years ago I bought wines at a store owned by a very old man. He had a few bottles of pre-WWII Blue Nun Liebfraumilch on display, but not for sale because they were too old. He always would tell people who asked about them that the nun pictures were taken off of the label in the WWII era.

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Hi Delved deeper into my sources and found that the "Weingut P.J. Valckenberg" actually makes good wine from the Liebfrauenstift-Kirchenstück vineyard, have a look at the church, monastery and vines at

Now I remember that Valckenberg made the Liebfrauenstift that I tasted in the distant past. A regional importer carried Valckenberg wines, and imported a bit of the Liebfrauenstift a time or two. This must have been about 20 years ago. I either tasted a spatlese or auslese - I am not certain. Anyway, with so many outstanding German wines easily available, I do not think I will go to special effort to find Liebfrauenstift again. Of course if I just happen to find it in a store, I might try a bottle, since it has been so long since I tasted it.