Santa Fe Wine and Chile Fiesta

Tasted about 300 hundred wines over 2, 4 hour tasting sessions. What did I learn. They should have never made the movie Sideways. Everyone and his mother is making Pinot Noir and telling you what proportion of what clones are going in. Unfortunately, the specifics don't help the taste. Most were tannic monsters closer to cabs than pinots. Very little subtelty at all. This was California, Oregon, Washington, and even New Mexico, though the Gruet Pinot Noir was actually very tastey and one of the better wines. The Gruet 2000 sparkler was the best $20 sparkler I've ever tasted. I would put it up against most of the medium end from France (the company is owned by a French concern) and was better than anything but the reserves from Schramsburg which are 5-6 times the cost of this bottle.

The big cowboy dude from Sandford (who was in Sideways) poured the usual Sanford, good but nothing special. I could not tell one single Oregon Pinot from another. Everyone is adding Pommard clones for backbone but these are not Pommard wines. Cabs, well Clos du Val Reserve

1999 cab was great, a classic cab, not fruit forward, already showing some blending of tastes and affordable. Ridge Monte Bello 2000 was such a monster it was hard to tell yet but should be great. Silver Oak 2001 Alexander Valley was so-so for a $125 bottle and shows little backbone for cellaring. Some very intersting Sauvignon Blancs from New Zealand as well as some tasty Rieslings.

Will write more later when I have time.

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Lawrence Leichtman
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Gruet's wines are great. Their tasting room in an Albuquerque industrial park is well worth visiting. Did you by any chance attend the Phelps Insignia vertical tasting? That was the one event that drew my attention.

Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton

Interesting that so many people recommend the Gruet sparkler as a good value, but I personally don't care for it. I might buy it for $10, but at $20 no way.

Dimitri

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D. Gerasimatos

Didn't make that one as it was sold out. I really wanted it but the tickets went out the first day they went on sale. In fact, everything sold out the first day they went on sale.

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Lawrence Leichtman

Gruet is outstanding...they also do a Vintage Brut Rose and it is incredible. Only sold at winery or from winery...

Agreed, the PQR is outstanding and they are low profile.

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Richard Neidich

I think it's a fine value (I prefer the BdN to the regular Brut, but like both), but that's because I pay $10-12. I like it, but $20 would cause hesitation.

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DaleW

So I guess we are in agreement. When I want cheap champagne I like Segura Viudas (about $6) or Korbel Natural. At $10 I might buy Gruet, but for $20 I prefer Roederer, Delamotte, Pacific Echo, and others. I find it (Gruet) rather like Gloria Ferrer in that it is better than the cheapies, but not as good the wines it competes with in price. So, in that sense it is not good QPR.

Dimitri

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D. Gerasimatos

Oh, how can I forget Argyle, which is way up there among favorites in the $20 range. I'd buy Argyle every day over Gruet.

Dimitri

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D. Gerasimatos

Not me. I find Gruet the more interesting of the two, though Argyle isn't bad by any stretch. I don't understand why you're paying so much for Gruet in SoCal, Dimitri. Even here in Indiana I can get it for $15 per bottle without a sweat. Winesearcher shows places in LA selling it for the $10-12 that Dale mentioned.

I agree about Roederer Estate, though. Pacific Echo has never turned my head, but I haven't had a lot of it, either.

Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton

I could probably find it for less if I cared to. It's interesting that you do not like Argyle as well. Argyle is very well made. I did a tasting of older vintages of Argyle and it actually ages very well, too. That tasting was alongside Bollinger's wines (same distributor, I believe) and Argyle showed fairly well. On the other hand, Gruet has been something I've always some away disappointed with. It's not bad, but there's something about it I don't like.

Pacific Echo is another of those wines that, for the price, I am more likely to move up into something better for a little more money. However, the few times I have had it I've been pleasantly surprised. I find myself liking it much more than Mumm (CA) and Piper Sonoma, which (along with Domaine Chandon, Roederer Estate, Schramsberg, Gloria Ferrer, Iron Horse, and Domain Carneros - and formerly S. Anderson, which got out of sparklers) are its main competitors. Of the bunch I would say I like Roederer Esate, Schramsberg, and Iron Horse the best, but Schramsberg is often overpriced. Gruet never even makes it onto the radar.

I have only had a few bottles, but I remember being bitterly disappointed at all of them and thinking that it was a marketing fad. Whole Foods and Bristol Farms (upscale markets) heavily promote Gruet from time to time and that's when I've been suckered into buying it. I always wish I had gone for something else. It's funny but I remember thinking to myself on more than one occasion: "That's what I get for buying wine from New Mexico. I shouldn't be surprised at this." :)

Dimitri

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D. Gerasimatos

Well, the merits of their sparkler aside, Gruet also makes a fine still Pinot Noir, which I'd place alongside some of the better CA and OR examples (and more reasonably priced). Alas, I've never seen them for sale outside of NM...

Mark Lipton

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Lawrence Leichtman

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Lawrence Leichtman

Wow. That's high praise. I guess I cannot agree.

Dimitri

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D. Gerasimatos

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