After posting the ther day, I had a chance to try the Sepp Grüner 2 more times (only one drinking wine this week so the bottle lasted) What I found worth noting is that though I found it unspectacular, it stayed well over the course of the three days and since everyone knows old shoes fit better I would revise my opinon up a notch and feel that it is certainly an excellent QPR at 7.99US