Stratagy regarding '02 Bordeaux Futures

For personal and sentimental reasons I am in the market for '02 Mouton, Cos d'Estournel, Ducru Beauciallou, and Durfort Vivens. I am a little worried about all of the hype surrounding Mouton and Cos in regards the soon to be released Parker scores- and their subsequent price increases. I hate to worry about Parker scores especially, but I wanted to get opinions on whether or not Mouton ($109-125), Cos ($60-99) and Ducru ($40-45) might be had at these prices again. Of course it is all speculative; I'm just looking for a fresh opinion.

Thanks, jason

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On the same note regarding futures, has anybody any experience with Wine Discount Center in Chicago? They have a small selection of '02's and the best prices. Like everyone else I just dont want to have my order dropped between now and shipment.

Thanks. jason

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I've shopped there on occasion. Excellent prices, spotty selection. Completely reputable AFAIK.

Mark Lipton

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Well, there are two competing trends. In the first, prices on wine in US have been under economic pressures. I've seen a lot of very good deals. In French wine, slack post-B2K demand led to lower pricing in the 2001 and especially

2002 vintages. Could this trend accelarate? The second trend is the weak US dollar. Distributors, importers, etc. have been eating the difference (see trend #1). But they won't keep that up forever.

In any case, predicting economic trends is really hard, no matter what the market newsletter guys tell you. Whether it's the US forecasters who said the stock market would falter in 1998, or that it could only go up in 2000, there's a lot of guessing in there. In US, RP scores make such a difference, that make another unpredictable factor. As I said in the Sauternes future thread, if you're buying futures: Buy early if you can Buy only because you KNOW YOU WANT the wine Be prepared to shrug it off if you're wrong re prices (either way)

The best reason to buy is that you know you want some top wines from that year (sentimental reasons, or whatever). We were married in 2001, so I bought some Bdx futures, plus Sauternes. 2002 doesn't hold the same attraction. If I taste barrel samples and like, might go then.

You also wrote: "On the same note regarding futures, has anybody any experience with Wine Discount Center in Chicago? They have a small selection of '02's and the best prices. Like everyone else I just dont want to have my order dropped between"

Warning, Will Robinson, Danger! (you're too young for that reference). Be very very careful there. The Rare LLC story is the worst (1000s of people out big bucks), but only buy futures from retailers with long histories of delivering futures, sterling reputations, brick & mortar stores. In Midwest, I wouldn't hesitate ordering from Sam's or Binny's. But I've never heard of Wine Dicount Center. If Mark or another area person says they are very reputable, great. But otherwise, look forthe best price from PremierCru (I know the Mouton is $109 there), Sams, Rochambeau, PJs, Sherry-Lehmann, K & L, Wine Exchange, MacArthur's (though I think even there they had delivery problems in 1990), etc. It's worth a little a premium for confidence.

Dale

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These are good words from Dale...

Its like buying life insurance to protect your family. You pay your entire life...when you die you expect them to be there to pay the claim.

If you buy a company that has a good price but a poor rating....they die and go before you do...you have lost.

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