Taking Partially Consumed Bottles from Restaurants

I just read an article on the Internet that reported that some French restaurants are permitting customers to leave with the unconsumed portion of the wine in bottles that they purchased with a meal. This is in response to a reported French crackdown on drunken driving. My main surprise was that such a practice had been, until now at least, been, er, not practiced. I'll bet there are a lot of unhappy waiters in France these days.

That got me to thinking what the practice is in other places and how they might vary in the USA from state to state, and how specific laws might affect things. Where I live (Washington State), I have never had a problem taking the unconsumed remains from a bottle that I had purchased at a restaurant. Generally, the waiter will provide a bag for the purpose. I know that, legally, the opened bottle must then be transported in a location that is inaccessible to the driver of a vehicle.

Vino

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Vino
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In Florida, we're told that if the establishment does not have a package license, the alcohol must be consumed on the premises.

burris

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burris

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bag

Doesn't it leak from the bag? Wouldn't a bottle be better? ;-)

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Ken Blake

We dined at the Tate Gallery in London some years ago. The Bordeaux on the wine list used to be cheaper than at the wine merchants.

We had lunch and ordered a modest bottle. We also ordered a bottle of Latour and instructed them not to open it. Half way through the meal, my friend left with the unopened Latour in his rucksack, leaving me to finish up and happily pay the bill - "Oh the other bottle? My friend left with it...." (they weren't allowed to sell wine except for consumption on site).

I doubt that would work twice.....

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Bill Spohn

Ditto for Ohio and if you're caught in a vehicle with an open container you might as well drive yourself to jail for up to 90 days for the first offense because the Judge will throw the book at you. MADD has had a chilling effect on the restaurant business in this State and to make matters even more difficult, one of our Senators, Mike DeWine (interesting name for a teatotaler) had a daughter who was killed in a drunk driving accident so he's an advocate of very strick enforcement of the State's open container and druck driving laws. Bi!!

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RV WRLee

You have wine left at the end of a meal?!

Dimitri

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D. Gerasimatos

In New Zealand there exist two classes of licence (to sell liquor) - an On Licence (which allows for the consumption of beer, wine and spirits) on the licensed premises (i.e. tavern, restaurant etc.) and an Off Licence - where the product is taken for consumption elsewhere.

Very occasionally, one business may have both licenses, like a tavern with a separate off-licence shop; but the law does not allow an opened bottle to taken.

A partially consumed bottle of wine (sold at a restaurant) cannot be taken for consumption elsewhere.

In respect to an open bottle of liquor inside a motor vehicle, the only consideration is the blood alcohol level of the driver; any passengers can consume liquor without restriction.

st.helier

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st.helier

Even if it does, the opened bottle may not be removed from the premises, whether they sold it to you or you brought it in as a brown bag. Once opened it must be totally consumed on premises regardless of their license. Real logical.

pavane

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pavane

"pavane" wrote in news:M%OBb.59207$% snipped-for-privacy@twister.tampabay.rr.com:

And quite an inducement to over indulgence. "use it or lose it" has never been a good long term philosophy.

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jcoulter

"Vino" ha scritto:

The real reason is that leave the restaurant with the unconsummed meal is considered not elegant, here in Europe.

Ciao Cesare

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Cesare

A relatively recent amendment to Provincial Liquor legislation permits restaurants in Alberta to recork, ie. push the cork fully back into the neck of the bottle and permit customers to leave with it rather than having to finish the same at the establishment.

It is a welcomed change given that many restaurants have a pretty poor wine-by-the-glass or 1/2 bottle list.

Nice for those who want a good glass of wine but probably should not be having another bottle.

Of course you still end up paying the restaurant price for the bottle but if you want that extra glass you have to pay. Some restaurants have been doing it [as with BYOB and corkage] for years depending upon how well they know the customer and whether they suspect the liquor control board investigators are on the prowl.

It came with the same amendments which now permit BYOB. However, a special licence is required for the latter whereas I do not know about the former.

Liquor rules concerning the transport of liquor would still apply so it had better stay corked and in the trunk or otherwise inaccessible to the driver or others.

Bob Macdonald Edmonton, AB

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Bob Macdonald

"Bob Macdonald" wrote in news:jDcCb.672132$9l5.351573@pd7tw2no:

What is this? Sane liquor laws! You guys in Alberta are just too much. Let us hope this is seen as the wave of the future and not just a crazy cowboy maneuver.

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jcoulter

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inaccessible

Both corked *and* in the trunk? I thought being corked was sufficient. Are you saying that there is someplace where it's illegal to carry a corked bottle of wine in the passenger compartment?

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Ken Blake

It would have to be with certain cars that have no trunk (my TVR, Bugeyed Sprite.......)

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Bill Spohn

snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Bill Spohn) wrote in news:20031212142644.11762.00000507 @mb-m25.aol.com:

There is corked and then there is corked. The laws are about open container such as a screw top on which the seal is broken. One could make a good argument that a fully pushed in cork, requiring a corkscrew would count as closed, but a partially pushed in cork which could be twisted off, the bets are off on that one. Busted.

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jcoulter

The Tate Restaurant, a great place with OK food, but with a great wine list at great prices. One of the great experiences you should have before that last breath, no matter what happens to the wine. I'm envious.

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Kent H.

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Kent H.

I travelled to Calgary for 2 years, and always found myself confounded by the rules. I'm so glad they relaxed on the BYOB and take home the bottle rules. Calgary has so many great restaurants, and apart from a few great restaurants (River Cafe, etc...) few have great wine lists. I would buy more wine just to get the pairing I want, if I knew I could take the bottle home. I know few people think that way, but the attitudes might change if it were more flexible.

By the way, I quickly found my way into restaurants. Few restaurants refused me corkage in Calgary, despite the laws. I never really knew the legality of it, coming from California. I do know they were all eager for tastes of the wine.

Jason

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Jason Massey

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