TN: 2 MSR QbAs, 1 Paso Robles Rhone blend

Apr 17, 2010 3 Replies

Thursday Betsy made cha-soba noodles with peppers, bok choy and shrimp (she had made another version with regular soba and chicken for friends who can't cook now), wine was originally the 2007 Maximin Grunhauser (von Schubert) Riesling QbA (Mosel Saar Ruwer). This is the truly generic, no vineyard designation. Lots of petrol, some lemon and apple. Soft, more pleasant than interesting. B-


2008 Fritz Haag Riesling QbA (Mosel) Fritz Haag to the rescue! Now this is interesting Riesling. Considerably more expensive ($20 vs $12), but worth it. Crisp, zippy, lively with a saline meets slate minerality on finish. Great for level. B+

Friday Betsy had dinner in city with friend before opera, so Dave and I enjoyed some sausages, trumpet royale mushrooms sauteed in goosefat, and broccoli. Dave tends to like big reds, so decided to try the 2006 Terry Hoage "Five Blocks" (Paso Robles). Ripe sweet blackberries. coffee, and some herbal hints. Some oak notes, but not overwhelming. There's some heat on backend, and a peek shows this is 15.5% -whew! Big verging on huge. Not a style I drink much of, but this is well done, and could compare favorably to some luxury cuvee CdPs (57% Syrah, 29% Grenache, 7% Mourvedre, 7% Cinsault). B



Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.  


There are a very few German vineyards so famous that they do not have to give a Weinbauort(village) name. One of the best know is Schloss Johannisberg. In the Weinbauort Mertesdorf there are a few vineyards. One is Mertesdorfer Felslay. However there is a very famous set of vineyards known as Ortsteil Maximin Grunhaus, containing the Einzellags(vineyards) Abtsberg, Bruderberg, and Herrenberg. Being an Ortsteil, Mertesdorf is not mentioned in the wine name and one thus has Maximum Grunhauser followed by one of the 3 mentioned vineyard names or alone if it is a mixture from 2 or 3 of the vineyards. If one must choose, perhaps Abtsberg is the best but the other two are not far behind or sometimes equal. Oddly enough you are most likely to find a mixture of grapes from more than one vineyard at the extremes with Qba at one end and BA and TBA at the other. Sometimes there is not enough BA or TBA to make it practical to make separate wines for each vineyard. In other cases the mixed wine may be made from what is left after some of the BA or TBA is selected for individual vineyard wines.

Apparently Bruderberg is only being used for QbA these days. They used to make an Abtsberg QbA, but haven't seen in a while. Not sure if this is all Bruderberg, or a blend.

I do not recall seeing any Bruderberg for sale in the US even in the

1970s. I still have a bit of the 1976 Abtsberg BA and the spatlese. I have one bottle of Herrenberg spatlese 1971 and several bottles Herrenberg Auslese 1975.

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