TN: pushing the limit on aging, plus Ramonet Chassagne, Bogle, more

Nov 09, 2003 5 Replies

Thursday Betsy made a shrimp/apsaragus/potato casserole-y type thing, and I thought Sauvignon Blanc was in order. As a white Bordeaux hat I guessed was mostly SB was in the drinking queue, I opened (with great trepidation) the "this should be quite dead" 1990 Ch. de Cruzeau (Pessac-Leognan). Surprise, surprise. Still some citrus and spiced apple fruit, good balance. A little nuttiness on the finish probably an indication it was a bit oxidized. But a helluva showing for a 13-year old white Bordeaux not meant for aging. An Andre Lurton label. B*



I mentioned a few weeks ago we had prevailed in a court case against our ex-landlord, who tried to hold our security deposit based on things like dirt on the top of ceiling fan blades. Saturday we had a dinner to thank a few friends who helped- an attorney who gave me advice, a tenant at our old address who notified us when the landlord (who was ducking summons by not signing for certified mail) was on premises, and a neighbor at our new house who jumped in his truck and served the SOB after that phone call. Plus their significant others. A very fun night, with great food and mostly good wine:



With appetizers of smoked mackerel (some with horseradish), proscuitto/mozzarella rolls, and olives, we tried: the rest of the 1990 Cruzeau. The one guy that cared aboutwine at all (but no geek) declared " it's like bacon and eggs". That perplexed me, but he explained he thought it deep and rich. I thought personally it was just flat out amazing it was still drinkable on night 2.



2002 Domane Wachau Terrassen Riesling Federspiel. Crisp acidity, granny smith apple fruit with a twist of lemon peel , quite pleasant. B/B+
1999 Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet Smoke and chalk over lime and apple fruit, bright acidity. Very nice for a $20 village wine! Wish I'd bought more, this should last a while, but I'm guessing my one other bottle won't last the year.B+/A-

A detour through some butternut squash soup, then with ribeyes grilled and served over a parsley/watercress salad with croutons and a caper/mustard/horseradish dressing (sounds weird, but it was damn good!):


2000 Bogle Petite Sirah. I served this because the recipe came as a suggested pairing from a NYT tasting panel look at Petite Sirah. Dark color, rich sweet fruit, drew some "oohs" and one "aahh" from the table. I usually think of Bogle PS as the quintessential hamburger on the grill wine. Never subtle, but I found this one a little too simple with its jammy fruit, soft texture, and overt vanilla. Ok wine, but not one I'd recommend in general (Bogle PS has been on my recommend list for a while). Poor vintage, awkward stage (I thought I liked this on release, probably a year ago), bad food match? B-
1995 Ch. Labadie (Cotes de Bourg) Very dark color, a little herb and plum on nose, fairly rich plum fruit with an edge of cedar. Finish is a little short, but a pleasant fully mature (ok, maybe a bit past it*) minor Bordeaux. B

With a cheese course (Mont Briac, Stilton, Reblochon, and a 3 yr old Vermont Cheddar), and dessert (applesauce and ice cream-don't ask me, I don't eat dessert), we lingered over the reds, plus had the



1995 Kurt Darting Dürkheimer Nonnengarten Rieslaner Auslese. A bit of a storage worry, as the '95 was several shades darker than the '96 beside it when I pulled out that morning. Nice wine, with good acidic backbone. Apricot, ginger, and a honey-meets-Cointreau edge. A little botrytis? Nice. B+

Tonight after a long day of helping friends unsuccessfully move furniture (always measure the turns in the stairs before you buy the antique armoire), I had some leftovers, including wine. 3 day opened 13 yr old Bdx blanc is hopeless, and the Bogle's oaky sweetness had intensifed. The Labadie was also past it, but the Ramonet was singing.


*Ok, I know you're thinking, what's up with 1990 Bdx blanc and 1995 Cotes de Bourg? I was in a local strip mall this week, walked into a store that I had always ignored. A few apparent deals (though not steals) in the store- 1996 Margaux (not Ch. Margaux!), '96 Piemontes, etc. Asked the clerk (owner?), he vowed good storage. They all say that. So I bought a 13 y old Pessac and a '95 Cotes de Bourg, for $9 and $13 respectively, s test subjects. Both were ok, not great. But neither seemed to my palate to have the tell-tale signs of bad storage- no sherryish notes (the Cruzeau had some nuttiness, but not extreme), no prune or cooked fruit flavors, etc. Will go back and up the ante a little, though it will be a while before I spent real money there.

Grade disclaimer: I'm a pretty easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Dale



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This wine will cost something approaching $40 at most wine shops. If you can get it for $20 then it is a steal.

Dimitri

Ok, this'll teach me to post w/o editing (especially after a couple glasses, in article

Supercellars in NJ. Still available couple weeks ago. Dale

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was only choice.

I presume this is White Burgandy. I purchased 3 or 4 cases of 89 Ramonet Chassange-Montrachet Red Burgandy a few years ago. It drinks very well, but is just about gone.

I presume Ramonet is one of the larger producers of Red CM, as I see it frequently on Paris wine lists.

I don't think they are a large producer. About 50% of wine in C-M is rouge, and I don't think Ramonet makes more than a few thousand cases. Perhaps it is on the wine lists because the Ramonet name helps it sell well. I just bought some 2001 Ramonet C-M rouge, but I have not tasted it yet. I bought it primarily because I like the Ramonet blanc so much. Talking to other who have had the rouge, it is good for the price but it is not the steal that one might suspect.

Dimitri

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