This the same we do here in Italy, also for Parma ham, but in Canada they decided to ignore these protections. A lawsuit could have been better used, or at least, after losing the lawsuit, UE could have took action against canadian "fakes". They did nothing, exactly as they do nothing against the USofA import-fees on european goods. That's because european leaders are divided, and so they are easy to pay, expecially if they get paid to "do nothing": it's much easier than "do something".
I am sorry but I really don't understand some of your posts on this.
From what I understood the EU did take the case to the courts against the WTO. They were attempting to protect the geographical naming and therefore the tradition with that name.
The EU lost the case.
That is all I know.
This article might help you:
I've rarely read such n>>> So what does mean for you "parma ham made in Canada"?
You're surely not suggesting that the EU took action to defend (among other names) Parma Ham just so that they could lose the case, and that they did so because "they" (presumably you're suggestiing it was the Italian ex president of the European Commission) were bribed to do so.
That is - charitably speaking - the only possible interpretation of your remarks and is arrant nonsense.
All the best Ian (To reply by email PLEASE don't use "Reply to" but use my name at wanadoo.fr) Thanks.
The other day in the LCBO (government run liquor store in Ontario) I saw a bottle of Tocai Friulano made in California. It almost had me fooled until I read the fine print. As far as I'm concerned the real Tocai Friulano is made in north eastern Italy. Regards.
-Paolo
Hi Ian, assume you are home in France....did you ever get the stuff I had sent to NY and CT for you?
Hope trip was good.
Dick
Now, EU did that lawsuit it because the producers, and the producers' associations, urged them to do something to defend theyr products. Thus forced to act, the EU acted with the results you see. After having lost it all, what did EU to react? Nothing. Nice...
Choose the interpretation you prefer.
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That's a good question. "The Oxford Companion to Wine" book, edited by Jancis Robinson, says that "Giant Champagne bottles, on the other hand, tend to favour publicity rather than wine quality (sizes larger than a magnum tend to be filled with wine made in smaller bottles." If that is correct, then the big bottles would meet the requirement as long as the secondary fermentation was done in the smaller bottles.
I believe that is correct. It fits the definition for Champagne, it is just made by a different method. Have you found any US labelling regulations on the method? I don't recall seeing any, but I haven't specifically looked for them.
Here is an excerpt from US Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) pamphlet entitled "What You Should Know about Grape Wine Labels." I believe it is a summary of the US regulations related to grape wine labels. Under the heading of Other Designations, it says that the label can have a word like Burgundy, but it must have the true place of origin, also. Then it lists some exceptions. ___________________________________________________________ VARIETAL DESIGNATIONS Varietal designations are the names of the dominant grapes used in the wine. Cabernet Sauvignon, Chardonnay, Zinfandel, and Merlot are examples of grape varieties. A varietal designation on the label requires an appellation of origin and means that at least 75 percent of the grapes used to make the wine are that variety. (Except "Vitis labrusca" grapes such as Concord which require 51%). OTHER DESIGNATIONS Wine labels are not required to bear a varietal designation. Other designations may be used to identify the wine. Examples are Red Wine, White Wine, Table Wine. Designations such as Chablis, Chianti, or Burgundy include wines similar to those originally made in the geographic regions indicated by those names but now produced elsewhere. Such wines must include an appellation of origin to indicate the true place of origin. For example, "California Burgundy." Some wines are designated with distinctive names which is permissible only on specific wines from a particular place or region within the country of origin, for example, Asti Spumanti from Italy and Bordeaux from France. ____________________________________________________
This is the link to the regulations that was given in the pamphlet.
Tocai friulano is a grape variety, so where is the problem?
M.
No, he's not as can easily be seen here:
M.
It is not correct (or not anymore). Recently champagne regulations have changed making bottle fermentation compulsory also for Jéroboam (3 liter) bottles, a regulation that takes into account improved glass-making and less breakage risk. Fwiw, Pommery is the only Grande Marque to my knowledge to ferment even Réhoboams (4.5 liter) and Mathusalems (6 liter) in the bottle.
M.
Exactly, had it been labelled Collio made in California that would be a different matter.
Mike
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Friulano means 'from Friuli' (Friaul) if I understand it correctly... Anders
BTW, what's the latest on whether it can still be made in Italy? I thought it was to be phased out a la Tokay Pinot Gris. Dale
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Yes, and "riesling renano" means "riesling from the Rhine", to distinguish it from "riesling italico" (= welchriesling). The terms still relaste to the name of grape varieties and not to where they are grown.
M.
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