I'm new to the wine world and have begun my journey with an afiniti for
merlot wines. If you can suggest another good red I'm open but i like teh
smoothness of the merlots.
I'm wondering if you could suggest the best options under 30$ that I can
get my hands on in the GTA???
any help would be appreciated.
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First thoughts for "smooth reds," are Syrah and Zinfandel. Very many are
definitely below US$30/btl. OZ and CA Syrah's are particularly fruity, as is
much of CA Zin.
Just a few of the many reds that might fit your bill,
Greater Toronto Area. The joke in "The Rest of Canada" is that
Toronto regards itself as "The Centre of the Universe". Robbie shows
us why... :-)
Robbie, even the smallest LCBO will have a decent selection of Aussie
Shiraz, and most will be well under $20. As somebody else suggest,
they tend to exhibit that smoothness quality you like.
If you pick an LCBO store with a Vintages section, try asking the
product consultant for advice. I've found them to be very
knowledgeable and very willing to help. I've noticed that at the
store I frequent people will grab a cart and then follow the
consultant around picking up a few bottles of whatever he recommends.
Dolcetto is a very smooth, appealing wine similar in body to Merlot
but with a more appealing palate. Made in Piedmont, Italy. Prices
range from about $10 to $25. Dolcetto has 7 sub-varieties, the
commonest of which are d'Asti and d'Alba. The biggest and boldest is
the Dolcetto di Dogliani, fine examples of which are made by
If you have a car I strongly suggest you take a few weekends from the GTA to
cruise the Niagara Wine Route and go taste the Canadian Merlots available
right under your nose from dozens of Niagara wineries. You'll learn a lot
and have a great time to boot.
In article , firstname.lastname@example.org says...
Thanks for the clarification. I assumed that it was a geographical reference
and saw the CA (as in Canada, my neighbor to the North, not CA the state that
a lot of my wines come from), but did not make the connection. Since I have no
idea of what wines are imported to GTA, my suggestions may have been way, way
off base. Sorry for that.
In article , xal.
For my education, how common are California Zins and Syrahs in Canada, through
LCBO, which is, I assume, the national distribution/sales arm of Canada's
version of ATF, or similar? In US, some states have stores that have a limited
list of wines for sale, so state controlled liquor stores all have about the
same line up. Is this true in CA (the country)? I've noticed some subscribers,
primarily in the BC area, mentioning that they do not have access to some of
the wines talked about in the group. Are there different levels of stores, as
you mentioned "Vintages section?"
Thanks for the info.
Inquiring [SIC] minds want to know,
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Merlot from Niagra? This comes as a complete surprise to me. Thanks for the
rec. I've done quite a few tastings that were, at least co-sponsored, by
producers/distributors in the NY and Canadian area, but all they have ever
poured were "ice-wines," Rieslings and quite a few hybrids. Maybe they just
don't bring the "good stuff" south. Also, these tastings were all in FL, and
maybe their offerings were to fill that perceived market. I'm surprised that
they didn't completely open their portfolios. Live - and learn.
Actually we have quite a wide range of wines from the Niagara area although
the hybrids are falling by the wayside. Foreigners usually only get icewine
samples because they are bloody high margin stuff and somewhat of a global
rarity. Although our wines have made and are still making giant strides in
quality, I don't think it's economic to try and export more of the same to
countries already drowning in a sea of their own making.
K, i know where I am, I'm in toronto, and we are the center of Canada.
Anyone in the GTA who would be able to help me with a local reference would
know what I'm talking about.
If your from Newfieland or anywhere else less important than just
disregard this post. How sad are you really? i just wanted some advice on
wines in a wine newsgrp. If i wanted anything from you guys who are so
crititcal i woulda posted in the 'idiot responses to genuine questions grp.'
To those who answered me with a real answer thank you.. to all others..
No, I'll just plonk you for being an aggressive little twerp with no idea of
what it means to post to an international newsgroup. Talk about parochial!!
Don't bother to reply. I won't read it.
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Since the subscriber base of this NG is international, you might want to place
"Canada Only," or similar in your subject line header. That way, those of us
who are geographically challenged, won't waste your time.
Your prescriptions in Canada are almost 1/2 of what ours are in the USA.
Therefore I suggest you stop buying wine immediately.
Instead buy Prozac...lots of it. It might help with you real issue.
Skip the wine...don't pass go...don't collect allowance...go get Prozac.
First off, the LCBO is the provincial, not national. There are
similar liquor commissions in other provinces. But since Ontario has
about 40% on Canada's population, it is the biggest. They claim to be
the biggest distributor of wine and liquor in the world. So the rest
of this is applicable to Ontario only.
Vintages is a "program" they run of twice monthly limited release
items, as opposed to their regular listing items. In general the
Vintages products tend to be the higher priced items, although there
are plenty of fine/expensive wines in the regular listings and lots of
low priced Vintages items too.
There are many "levels" of stores. I live near Kitchener/Waterloo,
which are twin cities of about 250,000 people. There are a couple
large stores that carry a large selection of "regular listing" items,
and have pretty good Vintages sections. There are also a lot of
smaller stores that carry a more limited selection of products. While
the smaller stores don't stock as much, they will order in anything in
the catalog without any minimum or extra charge.
Vintages has a good website at
There is also the
main LCBO site at
Remember that prices are in Canadian
Back to your intial question, there are plenty of California Zins
available. In the Syrah/Shiraz market the Aussies rule in terms of
product selection. But Vintages did a feature on California
Syrah/Shiraz in one of the summer releases.
I hope that helps.
"Robbienorth" wrote in message.....
And I am in Whangaparaoa, New Zealand
My brother (who lurks here) is in Wooloomooloo, Australia
My Cousin (who doesn't even drink wine and doesn't lurk) lives in Mbabane,
And my Great Aunt Ethel in buried in Reykjavik, Iceland.
How on earth are they supposed to know what you are referring to, huh?
And what about our regular, *polite* contributors in France or Austria or
Norway or the UK?
You might be in the centre of Canada, but you are so far up your own RC that
you are in a different universe.
Go form your own newsgroup alt.moronic.abbreviations - and learn some