Which red wine with Tri Tip Hors d' oeuvres?

Do these wineries regard themselves as "low-end" ? I was really thinking of mass-market box and < $6/750ml retail as the "low-end" segment. I'd regard the above as boutique and/or regional curiosities.

Trinchero seems pretty happy with the market segment that Sutter Home is in, I don't expect anyone would argue with it being a "low-end", high-volume segment.

I was thinking of Franzia, Woodbridge, Blackstone, Fetzer, Yellowtail, Beringer Founder's Estate, even Charles Shaw as more typical of wineries aiming at low-end mass-market.

Then there are the "classic" jug wines, still around today:

A related segment is that of wine-based beverages like Boone's Farm, Arbor Mist and similar products. These are lightly sweetened and extremely soft, and may in fact be the path by which many wine enthusiasts become open to the idea of enjoying wine.

Getting somewhat back on the original topic, if I was serving beef-based appetizers to a group with varying tastes in wine, I wouldn't lose sleep over Pinot Noir vs. Cabernet Sauvignon. I'd offer both a white and a red choice, something like Woodbridge or Yellowtail, and have a bottle or two of something "better" for the real wine enthusiasts.

Dana

Dana

"Dana H. Myers" wrote in news:Yqidnf2-k_

Blue Nun and Mateus, "classy" brands in the day, Ill wager more than one of us drank both and liked the experience. (and Mateus bottles made such good candle holders)

A nice Chianti normale.

Yes, I had several of them in college. Added great ambience along with the plywood and brick bookshelves. About the same ambience the Mateus itself added.

Blue Nun was my first dive into real wine (hehe) after Boone's Farm Strawberry just seemed too sweet. I could not do Mateus, but begged people to save me their bottles so I could let many colored candles drip down it's side.

wow, Memory lane. But you are correct, those were low cost entry wines back in the 60-70's. Thanks for the reminder on these.

DAve

Joseph Coulter wrote:

I was referring to typical wineries that individuals frequent when wine tasting. Most box/jug wine producers don't tend to cater to the walk in wine tasters as much as most other typical wineries.

True but those wineries are mass production facilities. I was referring to noting what people request while out wine tasting at wineries.

Ah, OK. You originally seemed to be making generalizations about beginning wine consumers in the US, and they didn't jive with my observations, and I think I understand why now. I don't think tasting rooms are typical environments for consuming wine. The supermarket aisle is more indicative of what people drink, IMHO, including "beginner" wines.

Dana

Thats true. However, when beginners are out wine tasting they seem to try to find something similar to their cheap box wines they're used to. They ask for the lighter, fruity, sweeter wines. Thats been my consistent observation at wineries.

I'm thinking a nice Barolo, 1999 Paolo Scavino.

I don't think those folks are wine beginners - I think they're non-wine- drinkers that have been dragged into a tasting room, and they're looking for something most like a mixed drink or wine cooler/flavored malt beverage.

With this, I agree. They're looking for something like a Seagrams or Arbor Mist.

Dana

I'll admit to being very much a beginner and a US citizen -- I got started from a cross section of wines our son picked out ( he's a Johnson and Wales student ) on my budget - from that varied group I started with favoring a Merlot and then moved to a Shiraz as the one keep coming back to. If I'm not experimenting or want a "safe bet" for company - I usually choose the Casillero del Diablo label with red wines -- don't know if that falls under "full bodied" or not ; still learing

Steve Johnson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Steve,

I think there is an issue with the quotation in your post as I did not write what is attributed to me. I believe is was stated by Miles, but I am too lazy just now to look it up.

John